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Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

elmomle wrote: post #218
btbuildem wrote: post #80

If a metaverse is hosted by FB, it'll come with all the drama, nonsense and toxicity we see on there today. The product (ie, today's users of FB) is what stinks to high heavens.

It isn't the users, it's the platform and underlying philosophy of the business. They are factory-farming humans' attention; it's no wonder the result is dystopian.

It's basically The Matrix but without the cool martial arts moves.

I suppose the ultimate goal is compulsory participation, for more or less overt values of "compulsory."

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by wpietri »

polote wrote: post #378
brap wrote: post #125

The video they put out is extremely cringe. The whole “metaverse” thing is cringe. It makes me believe Zuckerberg is completely surrounded by yes-men who never challenge him and only tell him what he likes to hear. He is truly detached from us normal people and our human experience.

> It makes me believe Zuckerberg is completely surrounded by yes-men I feel like the opposite. Zuck is the only one to believe in the metaverse and as a result people who worked on the communication did it badly without a lot of conviction. He is in a pretty comfortable position, one of the richest people on earth doing 20% of growth every year. And still he wants to make a big risky bet like this one. I'm not really…

What things would those be? As far as I know his successes are a) 1 idea he had as a 19-year-old plus b) some other things that he bought with the money from that.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by MikusR »

spsful wrote: post #267
brap wrote: post #125

The video they put out is extremely cringe. The whole “metaverse” thing is cringe. It makes me believe Zuckerberg is completely surrounded by yes-men who never challenge him and only tell him what he likes to hear. He is truly detached from us normal people and our human experience.

This is what I don't understand about their plan. Who on earth is planning to adopt this? We've seen a push from all sides of the tech industry to open up the AR/VR space, and it never took off. Remember the Snapchat Spectacles? They still sell them but I don't think they were ever popular. Google glass? Popular, but discontinued. Apple's ARKit? Definitely much less adoption than their commercials would have led you…

Both Glass and Spectacles were sold only to the "chosen ones".

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by bink »

spsful wrote: post #267
brap wrote: post #125

The video they put out is extremely cringe. The whole “metaverse” thing is cringe. It makes me believe Zuckerberg is completely surrounded by yes-men who never challenge him and only tell him what he likes to hear. He is truly detached from us normal people and our human experience.

This is what I don't understand about their plan. Who on earth is planning to adopt this? We've seen a push from all sides of the tech industry to open up the AR/VR space, and it never took off. Remember the Snapchat Spectacles? They still sell them but I don't think they were ever popular. Google glass? Popular, but discontinued. Apple's ARKit? Definitely much less adoption than their commercials would have led you…

Remember this AR Demo from Apple way back with the iPhone 8?

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/12/16272904/apple-arkit-demo...

And what commercial applications of this have we seen in the last 4 years?

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by joshmarlow »

cma wrote: post #500
joshmarlow wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The neat thing about using NFTs is that you can represent the ownership on a public blockchain and that gives you some nice possibilities: 1) storing virtual property rights on a public ledger means that it can be shared among different 'metaverses', which provides friction against vendor lock-in; it limits specific vendors (like Facebook) to only providing UIs to underlying property 2) a single vendor going out of b…

Changing one bit on a texture or shifting a vertex by one bit changes the hash. NFT is useless for implementing IP without some other legal enforcement.

> NFT is useless for implementing IP without some other legal enforcement.

From a real-world legal perspective, you're totally right.

But as a means of acquiring an object in one virtual environment and maintaining access to it in others, it seems like a pretty good mechanism.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by micromacrofoot »

brap wrote: post #454
filoleg wrote: post #352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, that’s the exact same sentiment I remember reading about Zuck on HN around the time Instagram and WhatsApp acquisitions happened. People were saying it was one of the dumbest business decisions, that Zuck is just desperate and without any brain trying to spend his FB money on acquisitions before FB inevitably dies of irrelevancy, etc. Look at today, and I think most people would agree that acquiring whats…

IG and WA were already wildly popular on a global scale when they were bought, though. People clearly wanted those. Is anyone on board with this “metaverse” thing outside of SV? To me this seems less like the IG and WA acquisitions, and more like the much hyped Facebook Phone and Facebook Home projects (RIP).

I think it's even worse... does anyone outside of Facebook and the press take their Metaverse demos seriously?

Everyone I know and work with universally thinks they're a joke. They've spent how much money on this janky uncanny nonsense? You'd think they'd at least stumble into one redeeming quality, but it escapes them.

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