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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by fisherjeff »

tehnub wrote: post #167
alexmcc81 wrote: post #61

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> exact matches Not exact matches. Hashes. Hashes that were quickly show to have collisions that the company brushed off.

That's why they require that you reach a certain threshold number of matches before its sent for human review. The threshold allows them to take the probability of a false collision, which they can estimate from data, and set the probability of an overall false-flag by requiring a certain number of these collisions. They've released that the threshold, to start, would have been 30 (Page 10 of https://www.apple.com/ch…

They mention a “very conservative false positive rate” - doesn’t 1/trillion imply that they used 1 / (1e12 ^ (1/30)) = ~40% as the false positive rate? If so, that does seem extremely conservative to me!

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by BoorishBears »

lostmsu wrote: post #503
bastardoperator wrote: post #112

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That's how Android felt for me. Too many knobs, and a lack of good apps. I'll take Apple's integration over what amounts to nothing any day of the week.

How can you live without Android's back button/gesture behavior?

I mostly develop for Android devices and use iOS.

I have literally never missed not having a "always-back" button. Where would I want it that a way to go back isn't baked into the flow?

I mean half the Android apps out there have broken backstack implementations anyways so pressing back on Android will do anything from send you back one screen to set your hair on fire and everything in between so...

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by LegitShady »

standardUser wrote: post #513

I couldn't wait any longer so I purchased a very expensive Samsung S21 Ultra ($1200) because no Google phone could lure me away from my fading Pixel 2 XL. My mistake, because the Samsung phone had preloaded software that took considerable effort to remove (more than most people could/would deal with). It wasn't the software itself that bothered me, but rather that there were notifications for apps I don't use that I…

the apps preinstalled I can't remove that send notifications is exactly why I won't get a samsung phone either. I had an s7 (edge which sucked to use one handed because of accidentally hitting things on the curved edge) and all the samsung stuff on there that I had to deal with was a pain and the ass and impacted battery life (because it improved once I removed most of it).

I went to pixel phones and never looked back.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by LegitShady »

pkulak wrote: post #320
eis wrote: post #274

Google seems to have for some reason requested a very/overly broad embargo from reviewers which does not let them show any photos taken with the device or software features for now. MKBHD mentions this (and shows nothing from the phone really) @ https://youtu.be/roWxo6jWoYw?t=140 And Mrwhosetheboss said he refused to cover these phones due to the embargo. The Tech Chap mentions he can't show anything apart from the h…

Did you notice MKBHD said this kind of embargo is a "red flag". Well, he already knows any issues that may exist, so it's very interesting that he chose to say this.

I did notice that - even though I'm using a pixel 3a now I'm waiting for full reviews and some understanding of why they embargoed the phone reviews before deciding to buy.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by fouc »

talldan wrote: post #485
ruytlm wrote: post #467

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This is a key feature for me, and I'm disappointed that the Pixel 6 has gone for the in-display fingerprint sensor instead of the rear-mounted.

There's one thing that's handy about having it on the front, which is that the phone doesn't have to be picked up to unlock it. It's quite nice being able to read a message on my phone without picking it up from my desk. But on the other hand, it is definitely more comfortable unlocking it from the back while holding it. Maybe phones should have both!

Would be neat if there was a way to set the phone to stay unlocked for as long as it is stationary.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by optymizer »

standardUser wrote: post #513

I couldn't wait any longer so I purchased a very expensive Samsung S21 Ultra ($1200) because no Google phone could lure me away from my fading Pixel 2 XL. My mistake, because the Samsung phone had preloaded software that took considerable effort to remove (more than most people could/would deal with). It wasn't the software itself that bothered me, but rather that there were notifications for apps I don't use that I…

I've only ever had Nexus and Pixel phones, and I've purchased most of the releases, starting with the original T-Mobile G1, which, along with the 6P, will have a special place in my heart.

I finally switched to Samsung S20 last year, and my wife to OnePlus 8T. They were more expensive, but we got better hardware and noticeably better battery life.

On the software side, the Samsung S20 is not only bloated, but buggy. The keyboard likes to die once in a while, so there's just no keyboard unless I reboot the phone. There is way too much in that phone. It's like someone said Yes to every idea that was uttered in meetings. It also likes to kill background processes very aggressively, which sometimes affects Google Maps navigation and casting to Chromecast. On the flip side, Samsung has this software (Link?) that lets you use the phone from a Windows computer and it works very well. The touch screen is very sensitive and the screen has these slightly raised round edges, so sometimes grabbing the phone sends touch events which is fairly annoying.

I was pleasantly surprised with the OnePlus. Little bloat, compared to Samsung, hardware is very solid, didn't notice any glaring software issues, no weird stuff. I'm not sure how open it is to flashing another ROM, but to me it feels like a higher end Nexus phone.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by ece »

It's a bit disappointing that ARM v8.3-v8.5 has some security features that aren't available in even this custom SoC (PAC/BTI/MT), and they would still help with a JIT. The size increase on the 6 from the 5 is also :(.

I still like what I saw, and I hope Google's able to get to shipping kernel updates through the play store.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by xeromal »

Sodman wrote: post #224

I hate the trend that the "pro" versions of all these flagship phones need to be an XL Phablet monstrosity. Human hands haven't gotten any bigger. I have owned most of the Nexus & Pixel phones throughout the years. After having the Nexus 6 as my daily driver for 2 years, I have always opted for the smaller option ever since. I would totally pay flagship prices for a regular ~5.5-6" phone with flagship specs, and I'm…

I think a lot of it is to fit a bigger battery. No easy way to do it unless you want a 3 inch thick phone

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by jbluepolarbear »

randomopining wrote: post #388
jbluepolarbear wrote: post #301

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What’s so absurd? Often people of color are left out, why not the reverse? Your view stinks of privilege.

So when an ad has only whites, you would say: "why is this not representative of the people of this country!?" Then in this case I say: "why is this not representative of the people of this country!?" Your response, a smarmy "why not?" and personal attack. The failure can speak for itself.

Your racism is stinky

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by pkulak »

LegitShady wrote: post #524
pkulak wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you notice MKBHD said this kind of embargo is a "red flag". Well, he already knows any issues that may exist, so it's very interesting that he chose to say this.

I did notice that - even though I'm using a pixel 3a now I'm waiting for full reviews and some understanding of why they embargoed the phone reviews before deciding to buy.

Same here. Still rocking my Pixel 3 even though the USB C port is hosed and I can only wirelessly charge. :/
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