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When one of progressives guiding philosophies is “The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.” then this is exactly the plan. It’s all in their texts and one only has to read them to see plainly the type of policy they work towards.
Why is this guy being downvoted for quoting Ibram X Kendi, author of How to Be an Antiracist?
I did tech degrees, but its pretty amazing going to other parts of the campus where there are 2 or 3 or more women for every man in the building. Its also weird to see lots of well educated female friends finding it really hard to find someone to settle down with. Yeah they should probably lower their standards but honestly deep down most guys dont want an over educated achiever wife.
>honestly deep down most guys dont want an over educated achiever wife. Why not?
What proportion of women tend to date men who earn less than them, are shorter than them, have a lesser degree than them? Not a very big one, and men know it, so they steer clear of those women.
Similarly, most men prefer to date women shorter than them, who earn less than them, etc. Why? I'd guess because most men like to feel like they're providers and protectors, and most women like to feel provided and protected for by their partner.
A lot of this is driven by narratives—A narrative that college isn’t worth it anymore. A narrative that (white) men are uniformly privileged and life is just easy for them. And a narrative that those men aren’t wanted by society any more. I’m not convinced that all those men need to go to college, but they clearly need something. They need to feel like they’re part of society. Nothing good can come of an entire gener…
"And a narrative that those men aren’t wanted by society any more." Citation needed. (Edit: I assume this is getting downvoted by men with self-esteem issues. There are ways you can work on that. Good luck).
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College degrees are either incredibly overpriced, or incredibly good value for money, depending on how you analyse them. If you look at some CS graduate making $200,000 a year and assume they'd have made $50,000 without the degree, college looks like an incredibly good investment. On the other hand, if you look at someone paying $1000 per credit hour for online video lectures? I've seen online video at 1% that price…
> If you look at some CS graduate making $200,000 a year and assume they'd have made $50,000 without the degree This is the problem with assessing how valuable college is: you don't know how well off the person would've been if they had chosen not to go to college. You can't just compare all the people who went to college with all the people who didn't. You end up with a selection bias. You need to compare people who…
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If you can make NYC/SF money and save/invest a portion of your income, you can retire and do significantly better elsewhere. You can't do the opposite. If you can have a decent lifestyle in Ohio on 40k (big if, when you factor in retirement planning) you can still fundamentally never leave Ohio.
> you can still fundamentally never leave Ohio. God forbid. Think of all the experiences you and your family will miss out on! Lately all I want is to get as far away from people as possible. The internet has negated every advantage of these regions and of money broadly. You cannot buy a nuclear family.
Great news, the concept that you need college to succeed was one of the greatest lies told to my generation. Pleased the next generation is waking up. End of the day if the loan can't be written off, if the loan is just handed out to 18 year olds and has almost no limit then the organization that asks for the loan will inevitably balloon out of all proportion and no longer be reflective at all of the value you get ba…
> Great news, the concept that you need college to succeed was one of the greatest lies told to my generation. I guess it means what you mean by “succeed”. Going to college is and always has been a reliable way towards earning more money[0]. The issue isn’t that college doesn’t work, the issue is that it’s basically an asset bubble of sorts and the cost exceeded its value. If huge chunks of future generations skip co…
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I imagine their point is people forgoing a post secondary education.
The conflation of college with education was natural and understandable until the last 10-15 years, but that appears to be changing.
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> Great news, the concept that you need college to succeed was one of the greatest lies told to my generation. I guess it means what you mean by “succeed”. Going to college is and always has been a reliable way towards earning more money[0]. The issue isn’t that college doesn’t work, the issue is that it’s basically an asset bubble of sorts and the cost exceeded its value. If huge chunks of future generations skip co…
College degrees are either incredibly overpriced, or incredibly good value for money, depending on how you analyse them. If you look at some CS graduate making $200,000 a year and assume they'd have made $50,000 without the degree, college looks like an incredibly good investment. On the other hand, if you look at someone paying $1000 per credit hour for online video lectures? I've seen online video at 1% that price…
The last psychiatrist once wrote that women go where men are leaving. I don't know if this is true, but it seems to pop up in several areas.
Do you have a link to the post?
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It's not the post I have been thinking of, but there is a line there
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/01/no_self-respecting_w...
"[...] but you should wonder: when more women enter a field, it means less men did, and if the men stopped going there, where did they go? Why did they leave? I assume they aren't home with the kids, right?
I don't want to be cynical, but boy oh boy is it hard not to observe that at the very moment in our history when we have the most women in the Senate, Congress is perceived to be pathetic, bickering, easily manipulated and powerless [..] if some field keeps the trappings of power but loses actual power, women enter it in droves and men abandon it like the Roanoke Colony. Again we must ask the question: if power seeking men aren't running for Senate, where did they go?"
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College degrees are either incredibly overpriced, or incredibly good value for money, depending on how you analyse them. If you look at some CS graduate making $200,000 a year and assume they'd have made $50,000 without the degree, college looks like an incredibly good investment. On the other hand, if you look at someone paying $1000 per credit hour for online video lectures? I've seen online video at 1% that price…
> If you look at some CS graduate making $200,000 a year and assume they'd have made $50,000 without the degree This is the problem with assessing how valuable college is: you don't know how well off the person would've been if they had chosen not to go to college. You can't just compare all the people who went to college with all the people who didn't. You end up with a selection bias. You need to compare people who…
I think this is absolutely the key. If you just look at some of the figures given in [0], and do some simple math, you find out that someone with a bachelor's degree makes just a hair more than $26k per year more than someone with only a high school diploma. Over the course of, say, 40 years working, that comes out to a hair over $1M difference in favor of the college grad. So, it would seem that even if a 4 year degree cost $200k (which, sadly, is not an insane estimate these days [1]), it still seems like a no-brainer.
But, that's as far as statistics can take us, I think, because, as you mentioned, we don't see what happens to people who choose not to go to college, but who could have successfully gotten a bachelor's degree. There's no literal way for us to ethically conduct that experiment.
If I were to speculate a bit, I might wonder if the answer lies in looking at children of college graduates and comparing those children who went to college vs those who didn't. I have no idea if such a study is available or not, unfortunately.
The other idea I have is that, although it pays off in the long run, maybe acquiring a significant amount of debt at a young age makes it harder to get by in the initial, post-college years harder. Considering the cost of housing and health care, this seems like a reasonable hypothesis, but I'd also like to see if there's research on that.
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[0]: https://www.northeastern.edu/bachelors-completion/news/avera...
[1]: https://www.collegeavestudentloans.com/blog/estimating-the-t...