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The deceptive PR behind Apple’s “expanded protections for children”

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Post by fsflover »

aikah wrote: post #307
mastazi wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I don't expect any Linux phone to become "mainstream" any time soon, it would be good if we had at least one "polished" alternative available. PinePhone is still in beta and according to its own creators "aimed solely at early adopters"[1], while Librem 5 is experiencing supply chain issues with backorder shipping now scheduled to resume in October[2] There is a version of the Librem 5 which is made in USA and…

Problem will always be the hardware. Until we get some 80's IBM style architecture on mobile, there is no viable Linux for smartphone. I have 4 phones. None of them support lineage os.

> Until we get some 80's IBM style architecture on mobile, there is no viable Linux for smartphone.

Not sure what you mean. Pinephone and Librem 5 both have very well documented hardware with first-class support of desktop (!) Linux.

Re: The deceptive PR behind Apple’s “expanded protections for children”

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Post by fsflover »

busymom0 wrote: post #376
aikah wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Problem will always be the hardware. Until we get some 80's IBM style architecture on mobile, there is no viable Linux for smartphone. I have 4 phones. None of them support lineage os.

I recently saw a review of the "Volla Phone" which is running Ubuntu Touch. Seemed much better than the Pinephone but still has issues: https://youtu.be/neG2Z21epLI

> Seemed much better than the Pinephone

Just curious, how is it better than the Pinephone?

Re: The deceptive PR behind Apple’s “expanded protections for children”

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Post by dijit »

mastazi wrote: post #252
Barrin92 wrote: post #214

>The worst part is: how do I put my money where my mouth is? Am I going back to using Linux on the desktop (2022 will be the year of Linux on the desktop, remember) people really need to retire this meme. On the desktop in particular as a dev environment Linux is completely fine at this point. I can understand people not wanting to run a custom phone OS because that really is a ton of work but for working software de…

While I don't expect any Linux phone to become "mainstream" any time soon, it would be good if we had at least one "polished" alternative available. PinePhone is still in beta and according to its own creators "aimed solely at early adopters"[1], while Librem 5 is experiencing supply chain issues with backorder shipping now scheduled to resume in October[2] There is a version of the Librem 5 which is made in USA and…

There was one but people wouldn't "put their money where their mouth is".

The Jolla phone was made by ex-MeeGo/Maemo devs from Nokia, but nobody bought them.

Now they're focusing on just the OS and they don't make any full fledged devices: https://jolla.com/

Re: The deceptive PR behind Apple’s “expanded protections for children”

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Post by ekianjo »

gorgoiler wrote: post #476
ekianjo wrote: post #444

> The worst part is: how do I put my money where my mouth is? Am I going back to using Linux on the desktop (2022 will be the year of Linux on the desktop, remember), debugging wifi drivers and tirelessly trying to make resume-from-suspend work? Oh come on. DOn't make it sound like it's that bad. Wifi is a solved problem for a long time now, and you can buy Lenovo, System76 or Tuxedo if you want to make sure 100% thi…

You can indeed tell how tired and old the complaint is by the nature of what it complains about. In 2021 we are instead lumbered with inconsistent support for hidpi displays, lack of DTMF in linphone, and Evolution’s option to disable pc beep on new message being a plugin . But that was just the last week. Next week will be better and the fight for freedom is indeed an eternal struggle.

> In 2021 we are instead lumbered with inconsistent support for hidpi displays, lack of DTMF in linphone, and Evolution’s option to disable pc beep on new message being a plugin.

Those are not related complaints at all. Shifting goalposts much?

Re: The deceptive PR behind Apple’s “expanded protections for children”

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Post by mackrevinack »

tehjoker wrote: post #238

I'd like to point out that the government (and by proxy Apple, companies care even less) doesn't give a shit about children. They are advocating a policy of mass infection, they didn't give a crap about children in Flint drinking toxic water, etc. If they cared about kids, they would care a lot about thinks that physically hurt and kill them. This means we don't have to take their stated reasons for this at all serio…

apple also has a history of using child labour to build their products, even cases within the last decade

Re: The deceptive PR behind Apple’s “expanded protections for children”

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Post by fsflover »

arespredator wrote: post #495

Hi, post author here. To anyone upset or offended by the Linux/nerd paragraph: please chill, and please forgive my tone. I am a nerd myself indeed, and what I wanted to convey by this not-as-funny-sa-expected paragraph was that "going full nerd" is not a solution. There are ways to protect your privacy that will not be available to less tech-savvy people, and it's a problem. HN crowd will use Thinkpads with Arch on t…

> HN crowd will use Thinkpads with Arch on them, and phones with Graphene or whatever, but most people won't.

Non-nerds can just buy devices with preinstalled Linux and never care about the maintenance or support. I never had any problems with WiFi or suspend on my Librem 15. Same I expect from Librem 5 smartphone.

Re: The deceptive PR behind Apple’s “expanded protections for children”

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Post by ekianjo »

tgv wrote: post #517
ekianjo wrote: post #444

> The worst part is: how do I put my money where my mouth is? Am I going back to using Linux on the desktop (2022 will be the year of Linux on the desktop, remember), debugging wifi drivers and tirelessly trying to make resume-from-suspend work? Oh come on. DOn't make it sound like it's that bad. Wifi is a solved problem for a long time now, and you can buy Lenovo, System76 or Tuxedo if you want to make sure 100% thi…

A year and a half ago, we tried to convert a well-spec'd Dell laptop from Windows to Ubuntu for a new dev. We couldn't get the wifi to work. The dev now uses a MacBook.

There are tons of github repos for non-mainline wifi chips. Did you check if you could find something for the model you had?

Re: The deceptive PR behind Apple’s “expanded protections for children”

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Post by ekianjo »

chess_buster wrote: post #509
ekianjo wrote: post #444

> The worst part is: how do I put my money where my mouth is? Am I going back to using Linux on the desktop (2022 will be the year of Linux on the desktop, remember), debugging wifi drivers and tirelessly trying to make resume-from-suspend work? Oh come on. DOn't make it sound like it's that bad. Wifi is a solved problem for a long time now, and you can buy Lenovo, System76 or Tuxedo if you want to make sure 100% thi…

Fun fact: We had to switch from Lenovo to something else because wifi did not work reliably in fedora.

Which Lenovo model?

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Post by ByteWelder »

ekianjo wrote: post #444

> The worst part is: how do I put my money where my mouth is? Am I going back to using Linux on the desktop (2022 will be the year of Linux on the desktop, remember), debugging wifi drivers and tirelessly trying to make resume-from-suspend work? Oh come on. DOn't make it sound like it's that bad. Wifi is a solved problem for a long time now, and you can buy Lenovo, System76 or Tuxedo if you want to make sure 100% thi…

It's not bad at all, in fact: it's great! I just switched from an M1 mac and an Intel MacBook Pro to a Manjaro desktop with Gnome 4. In several ways, I found the Gnome 4 user experience to be better than macOS Big Sur. Even 3 finger swipe gestures with the Apple Trackpad work fine to switch between desktops. And my PS5 DualSense controller? Even the touchpad works, in a Wine/Windows application under Linux of all things!

With proper cooling, the machine is near-quiet on light loads like browsing. The background noise in my house is generally higher than the idle fan noise. It's obviously noisier with higher loads, but that's what you get with a beefy graphics card. (the CPU cooler has a 24 db upper limit).

I also had no issues with BlueTooth or AX WiFi. Resume-after-suspend works solidly too. The only hickup I had was that my graphics card is too new (Radeon 6700 XT) and that I had to get a newer Manjaro ISO from GitHub, rather than the main website.

Re: The deceptive PR behind Apple’s “expanded protections for children”

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Post by ekianjo »

nohr wrote: post #456
ekianjo wrote: post #446

> Am I getting a Pixel and putting GrapheneOS on it like a total nerd? FUCK. Thanks for depicting people who care about privacy and act on their beliefs as "total nerds", that's an encouraging attitude.

Nerd in 2021 is equivalent to "not casual/mainstream". If you consider sideloading OS's you are in fact a nerd.

It's not even remotely difficult to install GrapheneOS, so not sure how much of a "total nerd" you need to be to follow simple instructions. Has education dropped that low already?
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