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Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

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Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#521
Firefox is a breeze to use with great dev tools. Don’t even have Chrome installed atm, but may have to soon because of lighthouse.

Definitely pushing for Firefox to be part of default installation at workplace, we need to fight monopolies.

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#522
post #476

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My number one reason to use Firefox is uBlock Origin. It does an exceptional job and web is way more annoying without it.

uBlock Origin is available for Chrome and Chrome-based browsers.

No, there is only a subset of features available for Chrome. You don't get quite few important privacy features.

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#523
Firefox kinda pissed me off. They silently removed the network.trr.bootstrapAddress option, which allowed your browser to not get it's DNS queries hijacked and always use DoH. The workaround now is to... add an entry in your hosts file for the DNS server. I know it's a small thing, but why did they remove such a useful feature? I literally couldn't find any info on it other than this one reddit post.

https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/nqqhsl/trr_mode_3_...

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#524
post #477

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It does have a status bar. Or we are talking about different things?

They probably mean a bar at the bottom that shows what's going on. All browsers used to have it. Then it dropped to just showing which URL was currently loading. I don't think they even show that now. Most of what it had is accessible in greater detail with developer tools, but it was nice to have a little summary down there.

Status bar nowadays usually refers to the information usually showing the URL you are hovering.

Do you have any references to the old-school status bars and what they used to contain?

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#525
Why is this article on the second page and not on the first? Continued anti-competitive behavior from some chrome fanboys?

As much as I don't like Mozilla's company direction (pocket, VPN etc.) Firefox is a symbol for the free web for me. I recommend it over any other big browser (edge, chrome, safari).

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#526
I stopped using it for a simple reason: it bogs down my laptop. I don’t care why, so save your long winded explanations, it just does. And it’s a shame, because hey Mozilla, I like Firefox better than any other browser when it’s not slowing down my machine.

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#527

Why is this article on the second page and not on the first? Continued anti-competitive behavior from some chrome fanboys? As much as I don't like Mozilla's company direction (pocket, VPN etc.) Firefox is a symbol for the free web for me. I recommend it over any other big browser (edge, chrome, safari).

> Firefox is a symbol for the free web for me.

Can it really be when/while it is entirely dependent on Google for revenue?

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#528

Why is this article on the second page and not on the first? Continued anti-competitive behavior from some chrome fanboys? As much as I don't like Mozilla's company direction (pocket, VPN etc.) Firefox is a symbol for the free web for me. I recommend it over any other big browser (edge, chrome, safari).

> Firefox is a symbol for the free web for me. Can it really be when/while it is entirely dependent on Google for revenue?

Just for me, Firefox feels like that.

It seems Mozilla tries to break free, yet has trouble. Wondering how to help them.

If a non-tech friend asks me about a browser recommendation, I will always point them to Firefox.

It's the browser that I trust most. Do you have an alternative?

I trust Brave, Opera etc. way less. Not talking about Safari and Edge ...

As I mention, I love to use nyxt and qutebrowser currently. Yet, they are really for a niche market (keyboard first browsers).

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#529

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My child's school uses Google Classroom. The Google experience is unusable in Firefox. Meet doesn't work (e.g. he sees nothing when the teacher screenshares). This seems really quite anti-competitive. My child cares about privacy and switches browsers. Chrome for Meet, Firefox for most non-Google things.

Meet absolutely works in Firefox, there's nothing anti-competitive going on. As do Google products generally (though there are occasionally performance issues where Firefox simply doesn't provide an API that Chrome does and the polyfill is slower, but then Firefox catches up). But try disabling browser extensions and see if that fixes it -- a majority of the time that's the culprit. With videoconferencing specificall…

We know from multiple accounts from multiple Firefox engineers that Google engineers repeatedly expressed good faith in working together with the Firefox team to get performance parity on major sites like YouTube. We also know that they repeatedly violated this good faith agreement and when confronted could only exclaim, "Oops! Our bad." [1]

This isn't new territory for Google. They did the same thing to Windows Phone, simply excluding any of their products from working on Windows Phone, even when other developers tried to step in and fill the gap. [2]

[1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has...

[2] https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2013/01/02/micro...

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#530
I find many of the behaviors of google anti-competitive too, and slowly moved away from most of the things related to it.

Using a different email provider, storage service, firefox, search engine etc. However I still have to keep chromium/chrome around since some features I noticed just don't work properly with firefox.

On reading about recent http/2 and http/3 development (https://ripe76.ripe.net/presentations/10-2018-05-15-bbr.pdf) and google's approach to it, one megacorp deciding what is best for the rest of us feels too much power in someone's hands.

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