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The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Post by kwindla »

koilke wrote: post #451
Foobar8568 wrote: post #383

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>My handwriting sucks (I literally can't read my own; I'm 42yo - don't tell me to practice / it'll improve, just don't be that arrogant ignoramus ;). I am close to 40, 2 - 3 years ago, I re-practiced handwriting with my daughter who wanted to learn (out of school) writing. To my surprise, my handwriting did improve and I was actually surprised by the result (cursive, I am French), hers was miles ahead of mine but rea…

Having been at university in France, I know what it means to be judge by handwriting and style rather than content. Ironically, a few points off here and there for handwriting can actually be the cutting line in some cases for admissions in the future. Thy destiny is lying in thy hands.

Similar experience going to a French school for the equivalent of 10th grade, after attending US schools until then. My first math test grade was very low, mostly because I didn't write things in the correct colors. That was quite a shock.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Post by dzogchen »

noobly wrote: post #334
dzogchen wrote: post #325

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Can recommend a Onyx Boox Max Lumi. It has a 13 inch screen and good split screen notes functionality. https://imgur.com/a/2CPy5O9

That looks great, 13 inch screen ensures no reflow issues too. Are you able to flip through the pages with minimal issues while in split screen mode, or do you have to manually resize the page each time? Also, it looks like you have this in 'landscape' mode - is that correct? Awesome feature if so. Too bad these are still so niche and therefore pricey, $800 is a painful price point for such a device imo.

Actually, it has a cropping feature that automatically crops each page individually. Zooming/cropping manually also works, and it doesn't get reset.

Yeah I have it in landscape mode in the screenshot.

I think the price has to do with the fact that E-Ink sells these screens for a lot of money.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Post by squarefoot »

dont__panic wrote: post #520
squarefoot wrote: post #281

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Thanks. They seem really nice devices, especially the Remarkable2. The problem with working online is that most of these devices phone home regularly, and while I wouldn't mind if they read with me an electronics magazine or book, that would be different since I'd also use a reader for displaying medical prescriptions and/or other personal documents. Broadly speaking, device manufacturers (TVs, home appliances, etc.)…

I don't use a Boox account or sign into any cloud services on my Boox, FYI -- the device isn't crippled in the slightest as a result. While I usually use Snapdrop to transfer files for convenience, I also sometimes use a USB connection. Both are essentially "offline".

Thanks, I'm looking at the Max Lumi 13.3, and am very tempted, the price tag however is what prevents me from buying it just now. I mean, it's adequate for the hardware, but I hoped I could spend not much over €500. Hopefully their price will drop next winter.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Post by robinsoh »

dzogchen wrote: post #522
noobly wrote: post #334

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That looks great, 13 inch screen ensures no reflow issues too. Are you able to flip through the pages with minimal issues while in split screen mode, or do you have to manually resize the page each time? Also, it looks like you have this in 'landscape' mode - is that correct? Awesome feature if so. Too bad these are still so niche and therefore pricey, $800 is a painful price point for such a device imo.

Actually, it has a cropping feature that automatically crops each page individually. Zooming/cropping manually also works, and it doesn't get reset. Yeah I have it in landscape mode in the screenshot. I think the price has to do with the fact that E-Ink sells these screens for a lot of money.

> I think the price has to do with the fact that E-Ink sells these screens for a lot of money.

and what is this price? what volume? I am curious what this is based on since you state that "fact" with a lot of confidence.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Post by 9935c101ab17a66 »

codethief wrote: post #9

> Later this month I'll take a look at Supernote which already has a enthusiastic community and promises to have a rich API for 3rd parties to explore and expand. I tried the Remarkable 2 for a month but ended up returning it and ordering the Supernote A5X instead – I couldn't be happier! Its main advantages (IMO): - The Supernote acts as a regular USB mass storage device, so syncing files (w/o resorting to the cloud…

The supernote website / product pages are super confusing.

If I want the Lamy pen, and don't want the "nebula" cover, I have to buy the lamy pen separately, but I'll also still get the standard set, which I don't want? Or can I choose the Lamy set but change the cover?

Also, the Lamy pen has a function button, but also doesn't have the ceramic nib. This is weird since they go to such great lengths to convey how valuable the "never wear-out nib" is on the regular supernote pen. Also, does the Lamy pen need to be charged somehow?

Also, apparently, Canadians have had to pay ~$95 in duty, and shipping already isn't cheap. 95$ in duty is insane IMO.

Seems like an interesting product, but the website needs a huge overhaul IMO. I've been looking to replace my Kobo H20 Aura for a while, and I wouldn't mind ponying up a more for the supernote, but the website leaves me with more questions than answers.

I dunno, it's cool

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Post by nemosaltat »

badassiel wrote: post #458
NikolaNovak wrote: post #303

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I've noticed that early on; 15 years ago, I was keeping notes on a "feature phone with sliding keyboard". I was pulled by my manager for being disrespectful after the meeting; I showed him the notes and demonstrated that I was by far the most attention / had the best retention / was most involved in the meeting, but still... the message was - it looks unprofessional, stop it. Thing is: * My handwriting sucks (I liter…

Could tap strap[^1] be a viable solution to this? It does have some learning curve but I didn't found it too bad (was able to memorize all alphabets in a weekend). Though being as fast and accurate as keyboard will take some time and effort. With 10mins per day, after 15 days I'm at 28WPM with 98.5% accuracy (they have a training app) [^1] - https://www.tapwithus.com/

I’m a poor typist, for some reason I can touch type with my left hand, but I have a tendency to “hunt & peck” with my right hand. This is probably because I have to use a lot of GUI-intensive, mouse-based design software for work (constantly taking my right hand off the keyboard).

After reading your comment, I decided what the heck and my TapStrap2 arrived Thursday. I know I should just take those 15 minutes a day and improve my typing skills, but where’s the fun in that?

In any case, I’ve got the alphabet memorized, and now (at the end of Sunday) I can consistently get 18 WPM. For extra challenge, I decided to learn on my non-dominant (left) hand. I’m pretty impressed with how quickly basic proficiency can be achieved. I haven’t explored the mousing features, or macros, but I can definitely see myself using this in meetings in the future— if for no other reason than some sweet show-off value.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Post by theodric »

dredmorbius wrote: post #381
theodric wrote: post #299

I had an Onyx Boox 1 and it was slower than my 5-year-old iPad, the touchscreen would only register touches from the stylus they didn't provide so much as a storage strap for, and the OS was Android 6 with a custom spin so you couldn't load a lot of normal apps on it, and was abandoned and never upgraded. Total dogshit waste of €400. I gave it to my dad after a week. I hope he used it as a rifle target, but I never a…

For anyone reading this, finger-touch may be enabled or disabled on BOOX devices. My BOOX cover has a stylus loop.

Not if you bought an M96 before they released the M96C

"The Onyx Boox M96 is an Android-powered ereader with a 9.7-inch E Ink screen. Up until recently it was only available with a touchscreen that requires using a stylus pen for input."

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Post by rsanek »

I find these devices cool but ever since getting hooked on Anki, I've basically stopped taking notes completely and instead capture information in flashcard form directly. I find that this approach enables me to get way more long-term value than written or digital notes.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Post by rsanek »

nemosaltat wrote: post #292
DenisM wrote: post #268

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Put a stack of 3x4 index cards in you back pocket, and write thing down as needed. In the evening, (eg when you pull keys/wallet out of the pocket) review the cards briefly and toss the used once into trash unless you really need to keep one. This is a low-commitment device that still achieves half the benefits of really writing things down.

When I was in the Navy I carried a little memoranda pad in my left breast pocket. I’d take notes each day, at the beginning of each new day, I’d carry any necessary information from the previous day to the next page and then fold the previous page along the diagonal, alternating the folds right and left each day. The effects of pulling out a notepad and jotting notes are markedly different than pulling out a phone or…

Good insight. I find that when I say "oh that's cool, let me write that down" as I pull out my phone, it results in similarly-positive reactions.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Post by noobly »

jessmartin wrote: post #416
noobly wrote: post #351

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So you don't have issues with the lack of PDF reflow? I just want something that works for reading and doing math/cs while laying in bed.

Oh, I absolutely _don't_ want PDF reflow! The PDFs I read are formatted a specific way for a reason. 2-column, latex-generated academic papers, etc. Reflow is one of the worst things to happen to digital publishing, IMO. I get it that it makes ebooks readable, but typesetting is an art, and one we haven't even come close to nailing in the digital realm.

I think by reflow I really meant "maintain zoom between page turns". On my Kobo's default software, I had to re-zoom each page (so I installed KoReader).
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