If people on an app continually call for violence and violate your TOS you can boot them off. Especially if the app in question has no good faith moderation of content to meet your terms of service and their terms of service are either lacking or wink wink levels of enforcement. You can have ANY political perspective you want! Lower taxes, raise taxes, immigration policy, school choice, charter schools WHATEVER! You…
I'm amazed that this is so difficult to understand especially on a site like this.
If people on an app continually call for violence and violate your TOS you can boot them off. Especially if the app in question has no good faith moderation of content to meet your terms of service and their terms of service are either lacking or wink wink levels of enforcement. You can have ANY political perspective you want! Lower taxes, raise taxes, immigration policy, school choice, charter schools WHATEVER! You…
>You just can’t have hate speech against protected classes
"hate" speech is fully protected by the US constitution. Though I have to ask where you got the idea that in a world where it's ok to ban hate speech the powers that be somehow decided to only ban it in the case of protected classes? What a strange morality.
The United States is done. The tools that this community is building to enable political censorship will surely come back to you. You can call this Democracy. But this feels like Authoritarianism. I'm so disappointed in Silicon Valley and those in the Hacker News Community that are stamping out free expression. Shame on you.
Hmmm...name me one country where it’s less restrictive than the US. People really take the freedom afforded in the US for granted.
This is why telecommunications companies sign decades long leases at colo facilities. Because everyone who's worked at 111 eighth avenue knows what happens when big tech wants you out. There's no lease for cloud infrastructure and I don't know what collective psychosis made operations folks think that's a good idea. Was Amazon even obliged to give them 24-hours on the eviction notice? That sounds like just enough time for a small company to make sure they have an offline copy of the database. What was stopping Amazon from pushing a button that instantly deleted their ec2 virtual machines and then recalled their s3 glacier offsite tape backups for shredding too. This is a great reminder that even if you do all the "right things" in the cloud, it can all be taken away in a day because Ro Khanna tweeted at your provider. Western Union was destroyed for far less meddling and scheming than this and AT&T rose to power on the explicit promise to not do basically everything the tech giants have done these past two days, so maybe we'll see some disruption in the future.
The solution to bad speech is good speech, not censorship.
We've been doing this for 20 years, it's only gotten worse. Good speech is losing and information reality has forked. We can't fix this by letting it ride.
It was only two hours ago when I wrote: "I'm curious if this will also escalate to low-level platforms (will hosting companies, registrars, or even ISPs start taking similar actions on a regular basis?)" when Apple removed the app, following Google Play from yesterday. It would seem this cycle is certainly not done perpetuating itself as of yet. I think we are going to have some rough times ahead of us unfortunately.…
As much as I dislike Parler, I very much so hope that ISPs don't ban it. Imagine if ISPs get to block whatever website they deem dangerous. That cannot have a good ending.
If people on an app continually call for violence and violate your TOS you can boot them off. Especially if the app in question has no good faith moderation of content to meet your terms of service and their terms of service are either lacking or wink wink levels of enforcement. You can have ANY political perspective you want! Lower taxes, raise taxes, immigration policy, school choice, charter schools WHATEVER! You…
Your whole second paragraph is incorrect, people posting that on Parley had their forum shut down. 99.99% of Parler is benign (often conservative) content, yet they are being shut out for having some of the wrong people around them.
I'm curious to see how far things have gone. Does anyone here believe that an employer should be able to fire an employee for supporting Trump?
Supporting Trump, no.
Then again, if you were filmed taking part in a violent insurrection at the capitol building, please don't bother coming back to work if you work for me.
I predict 2021 is going to be the year of conservative media hammering on censorship, causing their audience to distrust the media even more than they do, and conservative politicians using it to score points with conservative voters.
Do you think politics is a sport where people score points? Bizzare
EDIT: not, you know, improving livelihoods or anything else important