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Re: EU countries team up for semiconductor push

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Post by ntsplnkv2 » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 10:29 PM UTC

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Americans who are able to get jobs in the tech industry do not have to worry about expensive healthcare, at all. The US is very much a tale of two countries - but people here making a lot of money have a great quality of life.

Even if you're in a comfortable situation, you have to worry about friends and family, and ensuring your children will have similar careers. When raising children, it just feeds into the rat race.

The people who are well off often have strong families, they are often well connected. They don't have to worry about friends and family at all.

Again, it's better to be rich in the USA than in Europe, but it's way worse to be poor.

Re: EU countries team up for semiconductor push

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Post by punnerud » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 10:31 PM UTC

For Europe to see it a success it does not need to be better than the established alternatives, it only need to reduce the prices by increasing competition.

List of EU projects with associated legislations and projects: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/legislative-train/

Re: EU countries team up for semiconductor push

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Post by ntsplnkv2 » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 10:42 PM UTC

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Americans who are able to get jobs in the tech industry do not have to worry about expensive healthcare, at all. The US is very much a tale of two countries - but people here making a lot of money have a great quality of life.

As somebody living in a country with a strong middle class, I wouldn't want to permanently settle in anything else. It permeates the whole society, the safety, the environment we bring up our children and their values. If you can leave your kids play outside. And so on. US is a great place in many aspects for top 1%, but progressively crappy as you move down the scale. And even good-earning IT worker is one long-term…

It's hard to take anyone seriously if they're basing everything off of opinions of never living somewhere.

The US isn't perfect. But the idea that it is this lawless wasteland that is terrible is just flat out wrong.

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Post by ntsplnkv2 » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 10:44 PM UTC

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Americans who are able to get jobs in the tech industry do not have to worry about expensive healthcare, at all. The US is very much a tale of two countries - but people here making a lot of money have a great quality of life.

Healthcare, sure- but what about reasonable housing prices?

The US has tons of affordable housing throughout the nation. It's not like London is super cheap.

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Post by chrisjc » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 10:45 PM UTC

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screye wrote: post #335

Genuine question - Has any major tech innovation/ product come out European industry (mainland EU) over the last couple of decades ? (not Academia) Their biggest tech companies are Spotify and Skype. That's pretty underwhelming given that Spotify's biggest innovations are in product development and Skype became a subsidiary of an American company within 2 years of its existence. Additionally, the 2 companies that see…

>major tech innovation 25% of the worlds research is done in the EU and a lot of that leads to something. Sounds to me like you look for software for the average Windows user only. ESA and CERN alone leads to huge innovations.

Sorry for the lazy question, but how does anything from CERN lead to new products or services?

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Post by pompeirules » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 10:49 PM UTC

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> Do you have any references of English actually being phased-out in EU? It's not clear yet if it will be used in official documents after Brexit agreements will be signed, but UK was the only country who chose English as an official language. There's an hard requirement in EU to translate every official document in every language spoken in the EU, if English is not an official language, that requirement will cease t…

As an American, I was surprised by the amount of English education I encountered in European. Though the places I visited: Sweden, Rome, Greece, Netherlands, France, Spain, Vienna, Ukraine, Berlin all have above average levels. Do you see the Brexit changing this? Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language_in_Europe

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Post by ntsplnkv2 » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 10:53 PM UTC

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Americans who are able to get jobs in the tech industry do not have to worry about expensive healthcare, at all. The US is very much a tale of two countries - but people here making a lot of money have a great quality of life.

Some people don't want to maintain the kind off dissonance required to turn a blind eye to the widespread failings and cruelty of American society. If I had to choose between going to sleep at night knowing that the people around me wouldn't be made bankrupt or homelessness should they have the misfortune of becoming sick, over circumstances where I was slightly more wealthy, but forced to justify all this, I'd choos…

There are millions of Americans working to help others, pushing for more socialist policies. But not everyone agrees, and in our country, you have the right to disagree and vote for who you want.

I find the holier than thou attitude based on European insecurity quite entertaining. Europe is great - you don't have to denigrate other places. But don't doubt for a second how Europe got there - through colonial genocide.

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Post by ntsplnkv2 » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 11:00 PM UTC

joelbluminator wrote: post #171

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Americans who are able to get jobs in the tech industry do not have to worry about expensive healthcare, at all. The US is very much a tale of two countries - but people here making a lot of money have a great quality of life.

Well you gotta worry u won't lose your job though right? Which becomes more and more realistic as you age. So just when you need insurance the most you may lose your insurance - nice system.

I don't worry about it, nor do most of my peers.

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Post by wizzairflyer » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 11:05 PM UTC

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I live in Switzerland and the legal status of (tech) employee is roughly the same to what you describe. I wonder if the difference isn't that firing people "at-will" just is less culturally accepted here. I feel we're in kind of a weird spot between Japan and the US in terms of how the general public conceives the relationship between an employee and an employer.

I heard about this here in Austria that Swiss laws are way more business friendly at less worker friendly than here, basically reaching at will employment.

It "at-will" in the sense that your employer doesn't need to justify firing you. But I wouldn' compare it to what they have in some states in the US.

However you still have at least 1 month notice, and often more depending on the industry and seniority. Here in Zürich the standard in tech seems to be 3 month (anecdata though).

Where it gets kinda business friendly is that if you are fired for an illegal reason, it's up to you to prove that you were instead of your employer having to prove he fired you for something reasonable. The settlements are also nothing that would deter a company to behave badly I guess.

There is also a good tradition of union-like structure in the professions that need it (the ones where one is easily replaceable basically) that give workers a nice protection and benefits. It's not like in France of course but it's far from the US, based on the stories I gleaned about on HN.

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Post by ntsplnkv2 » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 11:06 PM UTC

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Well you gotta worry u won't lose your job though right? Which becomes more and more realistic as you age. So just when you need insurance the most you may lose your insurance - nice system.

Not just age, an accident, diagnosis with a disease, etc. can happen to young people as well. Then you suddenly discover that your american insurance doesn't pay, or only a small fraction of the price...

Insurance policies are not hard to understand. They have a deductible and an out of pocket maximum. Most employer provided plans have a very affordable out of pocket max. Mine is $4000. After that I don't pay anything. In the event of an accident, I'd be fine.

Basing anything on the horror stories will make you think everything is bad. Many americans think Europe is a communist hell hole where people steal your money through taxes overrun by islamists.