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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by efitz »

Jestar342 wrote: post #461
partiallypro wrote: post #333

Twitter is well within the rights to do this, but I have seen tweets from blue check marks essentially calling for violence and Twitter didn't remove them. So, does that mean Twitter actually -supports- those view points now? If Twitter is going to police people, it needs to be across the board. Otherwise it's just a weird censorship that is targeting one person and can easily be seen as political. Everyone is applau…

Erm, what? This is just not true, and is a false dichotomy. Moderation is hard. Always has been. Stuff will slip through the cracks. POTUS has the most popular (and currently most controversial - note, that's _controversial_ not _extreme_ or some other morph) so it's easy to see why Twitter are on top of it. Other blue-checked accounts, whilst more "important" than unverified, just simply don't compare to the importa…

If most of the mistakes happen in one direction, then I would argue that there's some other mechanism at work than just "mistakes".

Update: data https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-tw...

Update: admission https://www.vox.com/2018/9/14/17857622/twitter-liberal-emplo...

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by jaredmosley »

daveslash wrote: post #364
crazygringo wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, in political science and sociology, one of the most common definitions of the state is that it possesses a monopoly on legitimate/lawful violence. Violence conducted via the military or police, according to regulation , is lawful. But violence conducted by citizens, or by members of the government or military that is not according to law/regulation, is not lawful. I'm not saying Twitter's drawing the line exact…

"Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts" I think Trump's saying that if things get out of control, law enforcement will start shooting. If I understand your post correctly, this would be lawful...

Well, it is not legal to shoot someone for stealing in Minnesota so I'm not sure how this would be lawful violence. He would need to have said something like "when the looting starts, we will attempt to arrest anyone that we see, if they then threaten the officers' lives instead of stopping or running away, then the shooting starts".

It is NOT legal for the Minnesota police to shoot a citizen that they believe is committing a crime unless their life or another person's life is under direct threat.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by crakhamster01 »

sethhochberg wrote: post #477
pnako wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the lies are obvious, why do they need "fact checking"?

Because, for better or worse, the sources of truth that normal people historically relied on for their barometer of what is true or not have been democratized by the internet. We live in a world where a substantial number of people believe the earth is flat, that 5G cellular is a mind control scheme, that vaccines cause autism, that COVID-19 was created by a political party, that the concept of climate change is manu…

Just commenting to say that this was a well written reply

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by reportingsjr »

rayiner wrote: post #523

What kind of utterly ridiculous policy is hiding posts for “glorifying violence?” So if I write a post about the Bangladeshi independence war, saying how great it was that we beat those damn Pakistanis, my post would get hidden?

When you threaten to start shooting people you are glorifying violence. I am guessing you didn't even look at the tweets.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by jakelazaroff »

rayiner wrote: post #523

What kind of utterly ridiculous policy is hiding posts for “glorifying violence?” So if I write a post about the Bangladeshi independence war, saying how great it was that we beat those damn Pakistanis, my post would get hidden?

Why is that ridiculous?

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Post by monksy »

Also something to note: Trump is using the POTUS account to retweet his personal not official titled account (realDonaldTrump).

So.. If he gets banned, we have a cause of ban evasion.

We might see 2 twitter accounts banned. This is going to be fun and amusing.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by fortran77 »

Animats wrote: post #79

Twitter policy: "We start from a position of assuming that people do not intend to violate our Rules. Unless a violation is so egregious that we must immediately suspend an account, we first try to educate people about our Rules and give them a chance to correct their behavior. We show the violator the offending Tweet(s), explain which Rule was broken, and require them to remove the content before they can Tweet agai…

It depends on who and what. And it's the inconsistency that will fuel the critics.

They didn't suspend Spike Lee who caused direct harm to a private individual who happened to share a name with an infamous individual: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/spike-lee-settles-twi...

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by dunkelheit »

geofft wrote: post #380
formalsystem wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1266340243134963712 EDIT: Scroll down a bit, the original poster made their account private a few moments ago

It's been a couple of hours - in general, saying stuff like that actually does in fact get Twitter's content moderation to kick in and force you to delete the tweet, and I regularly see folks who aren't conservative get temporary suspensions for it.

> It's been a couple of hours

She posted that tweet more like 11 hours ago. Since that time it has become somewhat infamous - I've seen it in my deliberately not-politicized timeline and separately here on HN. What is the chance their content moderation team hasn't seen it?

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