16-inch MacBook Pro • Hacker News Board

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by onion2k » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:06 PM UTC

subculture wrote: post #511

cracker_jacks wrote: post #485

I agree that the improvements like the ESC key and 16" screen are good things. But is it strange to anyone else that a company that prides itself on being innovative and motto is "think different" is parading around a screen size change and a keyboard regression as the biggest selling points for a product launch?

This release is more of a "we listened" release than anything else. That's likely why they didn't parade it around with an October event and instead went with a private press review and press release.

They listened to the complaints and addressed them but whether or not the fixes worked remains to be seen. Maybe they did this release without much fanfare because they're being cautious themselves...

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by AtlasLion » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:06 PM UTC

Tehchops wrote: post #473

Keyboard re-design and bringing back the ESC key will be huge. 64GB of RAM in a laptop... yowza.

Typing this from my two year old thinkpad with 64GB.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by w-m » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:07 PM UTC

theklr wrote: post #507

Why does everyone seem grateful that they kept the headphone jack? Where did Apple give the impression that they would remove it from a more stationary device?

The headphone jack was removed from iPad Pros.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by andbberger » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:08 PM UTC

systemtest wrote: post #152

seanwilson wrote: post #64

I'm not against spending money on essential tools of the trade that you keep for years but carrying around a super expensive laptop makes me feel really nervous e.g. it could get stolen, dropped, get wet in the rain, drinks spilt on it. When I don't need the extra power, I think I'd rather travel with an easy to replace $900 laptop than a $3,000 one for ease of mind.

It's the opposite for me. I would use the €4000 HP ZBook from work on the subway or on the street. But I wouldn't use my €1000 mid-2015 MacBook Pro because I know I wouldn't be able to buy a new one if it got stolen or would break.

That makes no sense.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by jpalomaki » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:08 PM UTC

"Built‑in 100‑watt‑hour lithium‑polymer battery"

That is quite respectable! As large battery as possible, instead of saving the few grams or cubic millimeters.

I'm comparing this to for example Lenovo, which seems to like coming up with imaginary battery life promises ("The T490 delivers up to 16.1 hours of battery life") and then cutting the actual battery to minimum.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by lgats » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:08 PM UTC

seanwilson wrote: post #64

I'm not against spending money on essential tools of the trade that you keep for years but carrying around a super expensive laptop makes me feel really nervous e.g. it could get stolen, dropped, get wet in the rain, drinks spilt on it. When I don't need the extra power, I think I'd rather travel with an easy to replace $900 laptop than a $3,000 one for ease of mind.

adding theft / damage coverage for a $3k laptop is doable with most home/renters insurance.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by rootusrootus » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:09 PM UTC

Sweet, a MBP that lives up to the name again. Congrats on listening to your customers, Apple. Too bad for me, I gave in and 'upgraded' my 2011 to a top of the line used 2015 MBP about six months ago, now I kinda want this new one. Ah well

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by jeffshek » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:10 PM UTC

ben7799 wrote: post #494

64GB RAM is like "hallelujah". Doing enterprise dev with Docker + Java is pretty horrible with 16GB on my 2017 MBP. The fact that this review didn't even once mention the fact that this machine is now thicker & bigger and yet they didn't add any useful ports back in is amazing. I still hate that the 2017 one I have has only USB-C + Headphone jack. I appreciate that it still has the headphone jack. But at our office w…

I was pleasantly surprised about the 64gb also. Same issue with Docker making me want to upgrade.

This has the largest battery possible under TSA regulations.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by orky56 » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:10 PM UTC

jmull wrote: post #371

gardnr wrote: post #325

The photos in the article do show the physical escape key but do not show the sides of the laptop where the ports would be. I hope that it has a MagSafe charge adapter and an HDMI port.

I'm guessing you're trolling, but just in case not, or for anyone else who doesn't want to look at Apple's web page: It's four USB-C/thunderbolt ports, two on each side, and a head-phone jack. BTW, magsafe is an optimization from a bygone era when you had to keep your laptop plugged in while using it. You can now (generally) leave your laptop unplugged as you use it and stow it somewhere out-of-the way to charge when…

It would be ideal if Apple could figure out a way to make a magnetic USB-C port. At the end of the day, the USB-C cable brings much convenience but it is loose and constantly comes out, just slightly to lose the charge.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by honest_tovarich » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:10 PM UTC

jborichevskiy wrote: post #471

honest_tovarich wrote: post #467

Just bought the 15" 10 days ago... Hating myself already... :(

I believe Apple lets you return for up to 14 days last time I checked. I assume you’d just have to wait a while for actual availability.

will do that , thanks!