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Re: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook

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The data of one user is worthless AFAIK, only aggregation gives any usable stats.

Then why do ad networks spend so much time, energy, and money to track individuals?

How is this even a question? One persons data is useless. They don’t care what you’re watching specifically, they care what everybody in a region is watching. They have to track individuals to get the profile data to categorize them in the first place.

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i have read repeatedly on this site that it is effectively impossible to buy a new dumb tv unless you get the kind of commercial ones meant for installation on walls in commercial buildings etc

"... effectively impossible to buy a new dumb tv unless you get the kind of commercial ones meant for installation on walls in commercial buildings ..." Which is great news - they are fantastic displays, they last forever, and they behave just like a very big computer monitor. NEC commercial displays (P461, for instance) are not expensive. I highly recommend you look into it.

i intend to next time i need a tv, but most people aren't thinking so much about their tv's spying on them

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What's the simple setup for something like this?

Ubiqti makes it really simple Basically create a new hidden ssid and make a new rout that goes nowhere Then enter SSID and password into the tv You can monitor that interface too

For bonus points, mirror the traffic off to a zeek to get even more than the ubiquiti DPI

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How will it detect unwanted (spying) traffic from legitimate operations (software update...)? Moreover it is a moving target, as the firmware can, at some point in time, use another endpoint (especially after an update).

"How will it detect unwanted (spying) traffic from legitimate operations (software update...)?" That would be harder, especially true in case of encrypted traffic. "Moreover it is a moving target, as the firmware can, at some point in time, use another endpoint (especially after an update)." This one might be easier to fight than the former. Upgradabe black lists might be a solution, not unlike some antispam software…

Each firmware update may come with a large list of endpoints. They also may use the very same servers (IP addresses) in order to spy and also for the updates or legitimate apps.

For the customer eager to benefit from a connection to the Internet it may be a lost battle, he will be spied on.

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