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Its good, I also like the keyboard. The click sound is awesome and I like the thinness of the keys! Maybe I'm different, or maybe complainers are just very loud.
Personally, I still bought a Surface Laptop though, but I don't understand all the complaining and ranting about the MBP keyboard.
I’m late to the party, but I’ve personally had my keyboard replaced at least 3 times, the logic board replaced 2x, the display replaced 1x, and the entire unit replaced entirely (all under warranty, albeit AppleCare+). To say that I regret selling my “tortoise” of a 2015 MBP is an understatement.
I have never had a MacBook before and due to changing jobs recently, I'm forced to use one now. Its good, I also like the keyboard. The click sound is awesome and I like the thinness of the keys! Maybe I'm different, or maybe complainers are just very loud. Personally, I still bought a Surface Laptop though, but I don't understand all the complaining and ranting about the MBP keyboard.
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Sorry, but when you throw around $2000 you'd expect a better product. Especially when you come from an older version of the device. And every customer has the right to complain about this. So no, they won't leave you in peace - they got every right to do so. Apple did a bad thing and took years to recognize it. (typing on a mechanical keyboard attached to a Thinkpad T480)
Sorry, but Apple did a really great thing with this keyboard. I absolutely love it, and its a shame that its going away because people like to complain on the internet.
Typing from my Vortex Race 3 75% w/ cherry pinks
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I feel like much of that is a matter of convention. Why wouldn't you put extract in the right-click menu, which can be extended by any number of applications with whatever useful functions. It's just functional in a way that makes sense. Renaming with anything other than Enter makes sense because Enter opens the file. The file path thing is bizarre. Windows 10 supports a path length of 32767 characters. But last I ch…
> Renaming with anything other than Enter makes sense because Enter opens the file. Does it? Enter is “text confirmation, make new line”. With single line inputs it’s expected to work like a submit for e.g. a search. Submitting a file name change happens with enter on windows as well. Now if you rename with f2, then submit with enter and accidentally press enter a single time you suddenly have executed or opened some…
Ehm. If you're in the middle of writing text, yes. Which you aren't if you're going through a directory with the explorer. "Enter" also activates buttons. Enter is always context-sensitive. It changes depending on the application and context. I don't see what's wrong with this.
The worst part is that I can tell this keyboard is actually having a detrimental effect on my typing abilities. Since being on these keyboards for years now, I've noticed that my typing speed has slowed, as I spend a significant amount of cognitive energy preparing to fix mistakes. The faster you type, the more annoying it is to go farther back to fix something. I'm not sure how to quantify the focus it steals from t…
Curious if you’ve tested this. I thought the keyboard was slowing down my speed, so I did a lot of wpm testing and was surprised that I was slightly faster. I still feel slower after the tests and have verified it a couple of times. I’m not sure how to account for this phenomenon other than possibly the lower travel feeling like less intense effort.
It seems like the tighter spacing and lower travel result in more unintentional key presses.
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Eh, as someone who's primarily used Windows (and a bit of Linux with xfce) for my entire life I find Macs basically unusable (seriously how do I browse the file system). I think it's more of a question of familiarity than anything else.
I hear you about Finder. Windows File explorer seems a lot easier and more feature rich compared to Finder. The single most annoying thing is that there is no easy/ obvious way to grab the path to a file/folder in Finder, which seems like the most basic of features. I did figure out a keyboard shortcut at some point, but Finder feels so dated as a file manager.
The monotony of this complaint is driving me crazy. It's really simple. 1. If you don't care about MacOS, and want a different keyboard, please buy a Lenovo Carbon X1 and leave us happy Macbook Pro users in peace. 2. If your keyboard breaks, Apple will replace it free. The newer gen keyboards generally don't break. 3. If you really can't type on this keyboard and you really love MacOS, there are lots of decent thin B…
In general I've found that slow typers are the people saying things like this. Nobody with a history of speed at a keyboard can be satisfied with a tablet-like KB, let alone one with the gigantic palm-magnet touchpad.
When people profess their love for the butterflies, I carefully observe their typing style. Palms held high, fingers pecking like bird beaks. And always, always very slowly.
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Does Apple not offer a loaner laptop during that period? If not, I'm quite unimpressed. These laptops are expected to be purchased by working professionals... what does Apple imagine is the customer workflow when an issue arises? Pause your work while the laptop is in repair?
They do not. I've heard their recommended advice if this is a problem is to fork out and purchase yet another laptop at your own cost, and return it within the return window.
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> "Thinkpads don't quite reach the feel of MBP 2015 keyboard for me." They don't? I was under the impression that Thinkpads generally had the best keyboards. They get praised for it all the time. Are current Thinkpad keyboards actually worse than 2015 Macbook ones? Are keyboards a piece of technology that's getting worse instead of better as time goes on?
ThinkPads have better keyboards than most, but Lenovo decided to join the chiclet camp a few years back and the recent keyboards haven't been as good as ThinkPads from eight or ten years ago.