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When Adolescents Give Up Pot, Their Cognition Quickly Improves

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I am a very very fat guy trying to eat properly and it’s excruciating, even after 5 weeks away from most of my daily life. Damned if I haven’t toyed briefly and desperately with the idea of some kind of pharmaceutical intervention. But my lifelong policy with drugs has always been if I can’t even handle Mountain Dew Throwback, I won’t have a chance with speed or coke or pot

Unsolicited tip. Something I find has helped me a lot with challenges like you are facing is to stop looking at them as difficult or choices and simply understanding it what you have to and are going to do. Remove the choice from the equation. I had some pretty destructive habits when I was younger and now people comment on my strong mental discipline. This approach has really helped. I recently had to cut all starch…

Definitely second this. Choices are hard, but decisions are easy. If you make hard rules for yourself and decide to follow them without exception, it is much easier to stick to, at least, that's what i've found for myself as well.

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>Yes, it is perfectly normal for people to experiment with substances when they come of-age. Oh yeah? 13 year olds 'experimenting' by doing lines of coke seem normal to you?

Stop posting extreme hyperboles all around the discussion, please

Obviously it was hyperbole, but OP was sloppy when they stated "it is perfectly normal for people to experiment with substances when they come of-age.". What are young people (13 year olds? 18 year olds? 20 year olds?) and what drugs (just weed? any drugs?)? Others chimed it and argued that kids naturally alter their consciousness by spinning around and nobody thought to clarify.

I don't think it's natural for kids to smoke marijuana. It is something that SOME kids do, but it is not natural or inevitable, and it is categorically not good for them (from a brain development, mental health, time-waste and addiction standpoint). There is a tendency for people to minimize marijuana risks and get sloppy around pot usage by kids.

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Sadly there's still some prohibition on giving the patient enough to comfortably OD and voluntarily end their suffering in a lot of places. I've heard nurses say that they're instructed to try and keep the patient optimistic, even when all that life means to them anymore is continued suffering. Gotta squeeze every last dollar out of them or something I suppose.

There is a less cynical explanation: if you make it too easy for people to kill themselves then you run the risk of old people being coerced into taking that option by, for example, greedy relatives eyeing their inheritance.

And it could be seen as a perverse incentive for governments to make it too easy for people who are an economic and budgetary burden to end their own lives.

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Maybe we need ways other than the law to stigmatize bad behavior. The law is a blunt instrument. Churches might serve this purpose, but those are out of fashion now.

Thank God (:p)

I love the idea of minusing "thank God" / being happy that religion is largely passe. . . pure vindictive retaliatory holy grace

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> society ends up bearing the burden of helping people who aren't able to help themselves, be it on an individual level or a governmental level. it doesn't have to do this. if people want to kill themselves slowly, they should be allowed to.

The problem is the same people who want to kill themselves slowly want our tax dollars to provide them free medical care whilst they do so. Your comment ignores the real burden that self-harming people create upon those around them, and why we need to get them out of self-harm rather than bearing the burden of it.

It's worth noting that the overwhelming majority of drug users never have a problem related to their drug use.

Just like the overwhelming majority of alcohol users never have a problem with their alcohol use.

Re: When Adolescents Give Up Pot, Their Cognition Quickly Improves

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post #437

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I am a very very fat guy trying to eat properly and it’s excruciating, even after 5 weeks away from most of my daily life. Damned if I haven’t toyed briefly and desperately with the idea of some kind of pharmaceutical intervention. But my lifelong policy with drugs has always been if I can’t even handle Mountain Dew Throwback, I won’t have a chance with speed or coke or pot

Unsolicited tip. Something I find has helped me a lot with challenges like you are facing is to stop looking at them as difficult or choices and simply understanding it what you have to and are going to do. Remove the choice from the equation. I had some pretty destructive habits when I was younger and now people comment on my strong mental discipline. This approach has really helped. I recently had to cut all starch…

Interesting. I will try to think that way. BTW I’m quite self-disciplined pretty much every other way and I never thought much about it, but I think that’s how I normally am. If it’s not food or caffeine...

Re: When Adolescents Give Up Pot, Their Cognition Quickly Improves

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post #521

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Unsolicited tip. Something I find has helped me a lot with challenges like you are facing is to stop looking at them as difficult or choices and simply understanding it what you have to and are going to do. Remove the choice from the equation. I had some pretty destructive habits when I was younger and now people comment on my strong mental discipline. This approach has really helped. I recently had to cut all starch…

Definitely second this. Choices are hard, but decisions are easy. If you make hard rules for yourself and decide to follow them without exception, it is much easier to stick to, at least, that's what i've found for myself as well.

Much obliged. It’s a surprisingly alien concept for me with food, yet not elsewhere in my life. Odd, come to think of it.

Re: When Adolescents Give Up Pot, Their Cognition Quickly Improves

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I'm a big supporter of legalization, because I think prohibition is dramatically worse than any negatives from people smoking pot (similar to alcohol, etc). That said, the two friends of mine that were the heaviest smokers, saw dramatic improvements in their lives in the few years immediately following giving up smoking pot. Both in terms of health and professional success. They were recreational smokers, rather than…

I am a huge opposer of legalization, because I've seen what pot has done to people I care about. I would point out that solution to the negatives of prohibition is not legalization, but decriminalization. The issue with legalization is that it removes the stigma with trying it, which means we get more users than otherwise. We can maintain the very correct statements that drugs are bad and that all possible care shoul…

So you're in favor of alcohol prohibition, too, correct?

Alcohol is legal, not decriminalized. Alcohol kills and hurts more people than marijuana ever has and ever will. Despite those problems, most sane people do not believe prohibition of alcohol was a good time for humanity.

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I mean, that seems like a stretch. I agree that most drug advertising (including alcohol) should be limited and never targeted towards children, but IDK how you can limit a financial interest to not increase consumption. Even if you allow home production, there's going to be bong companies and vaporizer manufacturers that want more people buying their products. Legalize weed, don't market it towards children, let adu…

It is also a social thing, young people smoke not because it is a mental issue but because it is cool, their freiends smoke so they try it. If the movies,music will show that is cool and the risk of smoking pot is small then getting the truth out-there will be expensive. Some rich business makes tons of money and the society needs to pay for studies, education, health treatments.

Weed is closer to alcohol in this regard. People smoke cigarettes because it looks cool. People drink or smoke pot because they're mind altering substances. Movies/music/etc. already portray smoking pot (whether it's cool or not is up to you I guess) so that horse is out of the barn.

"Will Kids think it's cool" isn't really a good argument in favor of prohibition. If anything, so far the (small amount) of data seems to show that legalization doesn't really impact things too much in regards to kids smoking in states its been legalized in. The teen usage is about the same, but it's still a super new thing so who knows how that plays out long term.

Re: When Adolescents Give Up Pot, Their Cognition Quickly Improves

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Weed is very natural. Very old. Alcohol is responsible for many illnesses. It is NOT 'just another nutrient'. There is a difference between a few slight trails of alcohol vs. what we drink.

"It's very natural" is utterly irrelevant to the question of whether (or to what degree) it may be harmful. Belladonna salad, anyone? Mushroom & pepperoni pizza made with Amanita phalloides?

I just mentioned it as it was mentioned that alcohol is 'just' a nutrition as it is contained in fruits.

Not a good or very useful argument but in comparison to 'alcohol exists in nature' 'so does weed'.

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