I love the intro video of Android Oreo launch as they used the context of Solar Eclipse on 21st August.
Android Oreo
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Re: Android Oreo
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Honestly, I prefer this over the popular alternative of making UX changes for the sake of adding something new.
I'd probably give most places the benefit of the doubt — companies will rarely make UX or UI changes just because. There's usually a problem they are aiming to solve, and the solution they choose is some sort of interaction. Is it always the right answer? That's up to the users.
Raymond Chen (core Windows engineer) once explained in his book that some UI changes are near-mandatory (at least for paid product) for most people to feel that the upgrade is/was worth it.
Say the engineers have done massive internal performance and stability improvements, better filesystem and what not; but those things are almost invisible to regular users. Most users want something more tangible, otherwise they will have hard time to justify spending few hundred bucks as they will feel "it's the same as before, I see no difference".
It's also (my theory) a bit of identity thing. All big companies slightly tweak their logo (even if it's just changing or removing shadow thickness) every decade or so that it feels fresh. The same applies to UI of applications and OSes.
Re: Android Oreo
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> Thankfully, 'Google Play Services' and distributing more and more services through the Play Store is a step in the right direction. A move towards replacing an open OS with an entirely proprietary solution full of tracking by a single vendor is "a step in the right direction"? There's thousands of solutions for how you can update core OS components, none of them require what Google's doing to open source.
>There's thousands of solutions Yes, but only if you declare the business models of everyone involved a non-goal.
You can still have a Google-branded version of the same product that provides additional, Google-only features.
An open core business model was always what Android was like, but now the opem core is shrinking with every further commit.
Re: Android Oreo
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Verizon wireless being evil is exactly why I stuck with T-Mobile for such a long time even as they keep making billing "mistakes" to the tune of about ten dollars every month for a while. (I believe they're just supremely incompetent but the errors somehow always are to their benefit.) With Verizon or Cingular, I assume it is just pure malice. I've talked to people about how Verizon is trying to use its network as an…
Can I ask what some examples of these "mistakes" are? P.S. also, was Cingular a joke about AT&T? I think I missed what the joke is...
Two in particular.
1. Cramming https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/t-mobile-gives-u...
2. They had a "free for life" 200MB? data plan for the Nexus 7 tablet kept billing me every month. It was a monthly ritual for about six months. Call, explain, get adjusted.
Re: Android Oreo
#525Earlier quoted context omitted.
>There's thousands of solutions Yes, but only if you declare the business models of everyone involved a non-goal.
You can still have a Google-branded version of the same product that provides additional, Google-only features. An open core business model was always what Android was like, but now the opem core is shrinking with every further commit.
All true, but what does that tell us about any solutions to slow or non-existant updates and fragmentation? What are some of the thousands of solutions? Or are you saying that there never was a problem in the first place?
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I hoped they wouldn't follow through with the new emoji style. Going to miss the blobs a lot.
why? those expressions were completely incompatible with what other phone users were seeing or sending
Agreed, miscommunication was a serious problem with them. See https://www.fastcodesign.com/90125701/googles-18-month-quest...
Re: Android Oreo
#527Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can I ask what some examples of these "mistakes" are? P.S. also, was Cingular a joke about AT&T? I think I missed what the joke is...
Two in particular. 1. Cramming https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/t-mobile-gives-u... 2. They had a "free for life" 200MB? data plan for the Nexus 7 tablet kept billing me every month. It was a monthly ritual for about six months. Call, explain, get adjusted.
Huh, I see, thanks for mentioning this! I'll have to let people know to watch out...
Re: Android Oreo
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> Maybe I didn't care before but now that I can't root my phone I am forced to deal with it. Why not?
maybe it is a company phone or it locked by by his carrier (eg verizon pixel) or he wants to use android pay\netflix\other apps that detect root or etc. There are many reasons.
All of which can be summed up as "don't work with shitty companies".
Re: Android Oreo
#529Does Google pay these candy companies to use the name or do they pay Google? There's obviously some contractual relationship but I can't figure out who's on which end of it.
I've never understood why they'd want to associate the brand with cheap candy. Ice Cream Sandwich used to evoke thoughts of sticky fingers and an over indulgence of sugar.
That's exactly what I would associate Android with- cheap, low quality and pervasive.
Re: Android Oreo
#530FYI Oreo Battery Life on the Nexus 5X is really bad. Don't upgrade if you have one.
Really? By how much? Since when were you using the developer previews?