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Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by tremendo »

veidr wrote: post #357

My own burning hatred towards Apple runs a little hotter than most, and I have been seriously googling (and trying) alternatives since 2012. That was when my $9000 Mac Pro — which had been a great machine, and still was, except for the little detail about not having been updated since 2009 and thus being stuck with USB 2 (!!!) to say nothing of Thunderbolt and any kind of modern accoutrements — started to feel like a…

I don't know man, I've been more-or-less following this discussion of the last several days, and keep seeing all this "nothing compares to MacOS because... Woo". I work on a fucking mac all day, every day, impatiently waiting to get back home to my Ubuntu desktop. Oh yes, I dislike laptops with their small screens and toy keyboards. I carry this macbook from work back and forth, only to plug it into real peripherals when I actually have to use it. Because no, Photoshop on a coffee shop is not realistic, it's dumb. Also this "Nothing works right, on any of them." Funny, that is what I think of MacOS. I'll restrain from ranting. In short, I absolutely, completely, strongly, disagree with you here.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by achikin »

wila wrote: post #470
achikin wrote: post #378

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> "There are developers who don't care about guidelines, or design. That's not a platform fault, is just that there are developers who just want the job done, even in a ugly fashion." And that is the biggest problem in software world, that's why our computers are full of half-baked, ugly, poor documented and uncompatible programs - because someone "just wanted to get job done".

That someone usually is the product manager.

Maybe I'm stepping on a mine here, but almost all software Unix Hater's Handbook is talking about was created solely by developers.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by btym »

santaclaus wrote: post #506
marrs wrote: post #206

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If you're a developer, almost all the killer apps support Linux first. But you're right that this is the deal breaker

LLVM and vim work amazingly well on OS X.

Considering vim has no required dependencies, I would be very concerned if it didn't work on OS X.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by cooper12 »

javajosh wrote: post #519
cooper12 wrote: post #502

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Just FYI, screenshotting is taking a limited-resolution, imperfectly cropped PNG from what is usually a compressed JPG. You just need to get into the habit of right clicking and "save as" and the resulting image with have perfect fidelity with the original.

That doesn't really help me when I'm, for example, sharing a flash ad or a video or any number of other things, like my Hearthstone state.

Oh okay you meant screenshots in general. I thought you were screencapping jpegs.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by jsz0 »

falcolas wrote: post #275
natch wrote: post #239

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Which adapters do you need to carry? I would love a 32G or 64G machine too, but did you see what Phil Schiller said about the 32G issue? It sounded like it wasn't a matter of a little bit more power, it was a LOT more. We really don't know how much more. Apple does know. If the new design was two inches thick people would be complaining about that. Personally I'm expecting that no matter what the vendor. desktops wil…

> Which adapters do you need to carry? USB-A adapter for my wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse. A gigabit ethernet adapter. Mini-DP x2 adapter, for my desktop screens. I may be able to leave those attached to the screens, though. I'd need another one for home in that case. Power adapter, HDMI adapter and two USB-A, for attaching to any external screens, speakerphones, and webcams when in a conference room. If I inc…

Sounds like USB-C hubs / docking stations will make your life a lot easier in the long run.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by junnan »

bischofs wrote: post #471
tolger wrote: post #468

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Did the machine come with Ubuntu out of the box, or did you install it yourself? That is one of the reasons my company went with System76. They ship with Ubuntu installed and will provide support, drivers for all the hardware, etc. The OryxPro is a nice desktop replacement.

Shipped with it from dell

Shipped with Dell but wifi not working? I don't buy it.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by falcolas »

melq wrote: post #450
falcolas wrote: post #275

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> Which adapters do you need to carry? USB-A adapter for my wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse. A gigabit ethernet adapter. Mini-DP x2 adapter, for my desktop screens. I may be able to leave those attached to the screens, though. I'd need another one for home in that case. Power adapter, HDMI adapter and two USB-A, for attaching to any external screens, speakerphones, and webcams when in a conference room. If I inc…

> Not compared to memory. You don't want to put your computer in a constant state of swap - something easy to do with VMs. Perhaps not compared to memory, but that gap continues to look smaller and smaller. The new PCIe/NVME drive's bandwidth looks to be within 1(-ish) order of magnitude of ddr3. Apple is claiming ~3GB/s read ~2GB write and iirc 1600mhz ddr3 is somewhere around 20GB/s rw. I don't know what the latenc…

> Perhaps not compared to memory, but that gap continues to look smaller and smaller.

And when that gap is gone (or maybe even within 2-4x, given the advancements in L1-L4 cache mechanisms), we can re-write our OSes and rejoice. Sadly, they're not gone yet, and I can still bring my Mac to its knees by starting one too many VMs.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by falcolas »

jsz0 wrote: post #525
falcolas wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Which adapters do you need to carry? USB-A adapter for my wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse. A gigabit ethernet adapter. Mini-DP x2 adapter, for my desktop screens. I may be able to leave those attached to the screens, though. I'd need another one for home in that case. Power adapter, HDMI adapter and two USB-A, for attaching to any external screens, speakerphones, and webcams when in a conference room. If I inc…

Sounds like USB-C hubs / docking stations will make your life a lot easier in the long run.

A docking station would indeed make my life easier, but only with a significant investment of extra cash in addition to my new PC.

Even then I'll still need adapters to operate in the places where that cash has not yet been spent (i.e. conference rooms).

And perhaps it's just me lamenting a sunk cost, but it is going to suck to throw away hundreds of dollars worth of cables, hubs and adapters.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by philbot1008 »

simula67 wrote: post #467
veidr wrote: post #357

My own burning hatred towards Apple runs a little hotter than most, and I have been seriously googling (and trying) alternatives since 2012. That was when my $9000 Mac Pro — which had been a great machine, and still was, except for the little detail about not having been updated since 2009 and thus being stuck with USB 2 (!!!) to say nothing of Thunderbolt and any kind of modern accoutrements — started to feel like a…

I have been a Linux user for a long time ( ArchLinux with Xfce ). Recently, I switched jobs and my employer issued me with a Mac. I am having the same problem : the fucking OS . Why do I need to press multiple buttons to see how many applications I have open ? Why does command + tab cycle through every open application ? Why does it not limit itself to the applications in the current space ? What are spaces for anywa…

+ cycles open applications, but + cycles windows in the current application context

I find this two-dimensional switching incredibly useful for multitasking, whereas Windows just flattens all windows to the alt-tab list, which quickly becomes overwhelming if you're a power user who doesn't like to close windows.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by [deleted] »

tremendo wrote: post #521
veidr wrote: post #357

My own burning hatred towards Apple runs a little hotter than most, and I have been seriously googling (and trying) alternatives since 2012. That was when my $9000 Mac Pro — which had been a great machine, and still was, except for the little detail about not having been updated since 2009 and thus being stuck with USB 2 (!!!) to say nothing of Thunderbolt and any kind of modern accoutrements — started to feel like a…

I don't know man, I've been more-or-less following this discussion of the last several days, and keep seeing all this "nothing compares to MacOS because... Woo". I work on a fucking mac all day, every day, impatiently waiting to get back home to my Ubuntu desktop. Oh yes, I dislike laptops with their small screens and toy keyboards. I carry this macbook from work back and forth, only to plug it into real peripherals…

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