Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List • Hacker News Board

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by Nadya » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 1:01 AM UTC

Someone wrote: post #479

Nadya wrote: post #413

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This assumes the product can still be purchased or is for sale in the country. Not every country has a licence to sell certain movies. Literally can't pay the money the makers of the films what they want to charge me because they don't want to charge me . This also applies to music and other products (though other products can't necessarily be pirated). My options are: a) Pirate the movie at no cost to the creator b)…

c) Watch another movie, paying its creator (possibly the same as in option a) If the minority's of people do that, the shared culture is going to stay, but it will ignore the movie of options a) and b), and include that of option c).

The culture surrounds the media. Changing the media changes the culture and even within sub-cultures those sub-cultures themselves have niches. Sometimes cultures even rise out of a singular media.

You can't just replace "Vocaloid Music" (Miku, Rin, Luka) with "other synthetic vocals". It's "similar" but it is not "the same".

The cultures around Gumi and other Megpoids differs from that around Miku and other Vocaloids.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by dimino » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 2:13 AM UTC

wtetzner wrote: post #498

dimino wrote: post #360

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It's $10/month, peanuts considering what you're getting. Your careful analysis of a purchase that's doable using the literal change falling out of your pocket is not representative of the folks who purchase Netflix (not representative of any purchasing group, really). They're not catering to the folks like yourself.

> It's $10/month, peanuts considering what you're getting. It's not peanuts if you don't think you're getting much value (e.g. it doesn't have the stuff you wanna watch).

What is the point in talking about that, though? Giving your anecdote that you don't want to watch anything on Netflix falsely implies your anecdote is statistically significant, when in reality it isn't.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by maverick_iceman » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 3:24 AM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #503

wtetzner wrote: post #491

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I'm not the OP, but I'll give it a shot :) The value Netflix provides is primarily convenience. There are other ways to watch movies and TV shows, the reason to use Netflix is that it's more convenient than the alternatives. Having to deal with physical media (and wait for them to be delivered) is less convenient than other alternatives to Netflix. Therefore, it's a flaw of Netflix.

Streaming is definitely more convenient, but since Netflix's streaming selection is atrocious, it's not worth my time or money. I'd much rather put up with the minimal hassle and a bit of a wait to get a great selection of DVDs. The "hassle" amounts to me opening up an envelope, putting the DVD in to my DVD player, putting it back in to the envelope when I'm done and throwing it in to a mailbox on my way to work. Sur…

I'm pretty sure hackney cab drivers argued similarly about automobiles.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by maverick_iceman » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 3:30 AM UTC

roboguy12 wrote: post #85

SCdF wrote: post #28

It sucks that Netflix is pushing their own content as a solution. Don't get me wrong, some of their own content is great, but I don't want to subscribe to 10 different streaming services that all have their own original content, I want to subscribe to one. Netflix--and others, like Amazon Prime--are becoming less and less worthwhile, and piracy is becoming more and more convenient again.

Last weekend my wife and I wanted to watch the movie Goat. It was pretty recently in theaters, so we didn't expect it to be on Netflix. We searched HBO Now, Hulu, Starz, and all of the other video streaming services that we have (and pay money for!). We found two options - rent it on Google Play Movies, or rent it through Amazon Prime. Now, we wanted to Chromecast it, and Amazon (to the best of my knowledge) does not…

Why can't you rent it on Amazon Prime and cast[1] the tab in Chrome?

[1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-cast/boadge...

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by AjithAntony » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 5:09 AM UTC

caleblloyd wrote: post #453

pmoriarty wrote: post #329

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"Netflix actually achieved this back in the disc-by-mail days." Netflix's DVD service still exists.[1] They have a fantastic selection, compared to their streaming service. [1] - https://dvd.netflix.com/

Their DVD service may still exist, but my DVD player does not.

You can play DVD's in your bluray player ;)

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by scurvy » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 6:12 AM UTC

turc1656 wrote: post #493

gregmac wrote: post #470

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My willingness to deal with physical media, let alone the postal service (any more then I am forced to, anyway) disappeared a few years ago. How is Netflix able to get rights to send physical media, but not stream? It seems to me that literally the only real difference is physical media means there is a limit on number of concurrent viewers.

I understand the desire for instant gratification, not to mention the desire to be free of the money pit called the USPS. That being said, physical media has far superior audio and video quality. A Bluray disc vs streaming 1080p ( especially a Netflix stream) is a world of difference. Streaming media is usually bit-starved to near death. If you care about quality (and you very well may not), it's the only way to fly.…

Netflix has 4K native content at a pretty decent bitrate.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by Someone » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 6:57 AM UTC

Nadya wrote: post #521

Someone wrote: post #479

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c) Watch another movie, paying its creator (possibly the same as in option a) If the minority's of people do that, the shared culture is going to stay, but it will ignore the movie of options a) and b), and include that of option c).

The culture surrounds the media. Changing the media changes the culture and even within sub-cultures those sub-cultures themselves have niches. Sometimes cultures even rise out of a singular media. You can't just replace "Vocaloid Music" (Miku, Rin, Luka) with "other synthetic vocals". It's "similar" but it is not "the same". The cultures around Gumi and other Megpoids differs from that around Miku and other Vocaloid…

Yes, _we_ can. If some group, by the way they choose to distribute their product, indicates it doesn't want to be part of culture, culture can easily adapt to include other music.

When a billionaire buys a Van Gogh or it is sold to some museum far, far away, we look at other van Goghs. If all van Goghs were to get out of reach, some other painter would be brought to the spotlight and become _the_ painter.

(And edit on my grandfather post: s/minority/majority)

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by kbart » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 7:29 AM UTC

AjithAntony wrote: post #525

caleblloyd wrote: post #453

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Their DVD service may still exist, but my DVD player does not.

You can play DVD's in your bluray player ;)

Are these still a thing? I've never seen one in use..

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by barrystaes » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 9:06 AM UTC

FTA: “I haven’t heard of any of these movies. Aren’t there any good movies on here?”

Well theres a big assumption right there.. Movies yet unknown are not bad.

Re: Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List

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Post by ajanuary » Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 12:58 PM UTC

wtetzner wrote: post #499

jackfrodo wrote: post #314

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What is the definition of "binge-watching"? For me, that would be three episodes of Bojack Horseman, or about 75 minutes of content. On the other hand, I would happily watch a Tarantino film, say 140 minutes, in one sitting. I guess it doesn't count as a "binge" but it keeps me in front of Netflix longer than a television show.

Isn't it more expensive for Netflix if people are spending more time watching it? Obviously they need to watch it enough to be willing to continue paying the subscription, but it seems like movies might be enough to do that.

I don't think binge-watching, as many people here are defining it (watching a whole season in a weekend) is useful to Netflix.

What is useful to Netflix is watching a whole show over the course of several weeks, a few episodes at a time.

The primary way my wife and I consume shows is to watch a few episodes a day, every day, until we've watched from the first to the last available episode. We are currently watching through The Good Wife on Netflix which, at 134 episodes, will take us about 2 months.

For me that's a good deal, because it would cost about £35 for a DVD boxset (yes, I could shop around, but only if my time is worthless), while Netflix only costs me £18 for 2 months. For Netflix that's a good deal, because they've got 2 months of subscription from me for 1 show.

Once we've finished with The Good Wife, we'll find another show to watch.

We watch about the equivalent of a movie each night, but we aren't going to watch enough movies in a month to make it feel worth keeping the subscription. Movies require a larger investment, because the characters and world are new and different with each one. With a TV show the characters are recurring, so you don't have to invest as much, which makes them easier to watch a lot of in a row.