I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

Post by nojvek » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 5:30 AM UTC

sumedh wrote: post #436

diego_moita wrote: post #272

Disclaimer: I am a Canadian permanent resident. > I like it here. This is the real problem, you have a severe case of non-reciprocal love. In that case the answer is obvious: move over, find another love, come to Canada or go to Northern Europe. U.S. immigration is an American problem,since they are the ones loosing talent and entrepreneurial people. It is not an immigrant's problem, since they don't have the powers…

> move over, find another love, I agree, I wanted to go to US from India but realized that its not going to happen so I went to Australia. Aus immigration is fairly simple process if you have tech background.

Post by ericdschmidt » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 5:33 AM UTC

greggman wrote: post #154

murbard2 wrote: post #12

I personally consider that opening borders is a moral imperative, but I understand why it is controversial. I understand that the arguments against "letting everyone in" have some merit, though I ultimately disagree with them. What is a real head scratcher to me is the US policy on highly-skilled immigrants. There are certainly some political constituencies in favor of those, but I can't think of anyone against, at l…

I've spent about 8 years in Japan. I love parts of the culture (the good parts, not the bad parts). Things like the service ethic, politeness, safety, and the basic idea of "do whatever you want in your private life but don't put out anyone else while doing it." My guess is that a massive influx of foreigners would likely destroy that culture. Is there any way to open borders and still preserve a place's culture, at…

Post by rockdoe » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 5:37 AM UTC

stormbrew wrote: post #450

log0 wrote: post #433

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to clarify in case people still have the impression that Canada is good for immigration: Maybe Canada is better than America for immigration, the experience is getting worse. After the new immigration minister came up in July 2013, the government has changed policies to make immigration slow and the path to citizenship much harder. 1) A Labour Market Opinion (LMO), which is required before a work visa, itself us…

> I get the feeling that Canada is changing its opinion of welcoming immigrants. Well, our government is at any rate. As a Canadian by birth I don't know that I feel we (the citizenry) have had a lot of input into the matter. :/

Post by ericdschmidt » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 5:39 AM UTC

kazinator wrote: post #24

murbard2 wrote: post #12

I personally consider that opening borders is a moral imperative, but I understand why it is controversial. I understand that the arguments against "letting everyone in" have some merit, though I ultimately disagree with them. What is a real head scratcher to me is the US policy on highly-skilled immigrants. There are certainly some political constituencies in favor of those, but I can't think of anyone against, at l…

Opening borders works for multicultural countries built on immigration. For countries that are based on a unique language, ethnicity and culture, it is damaging.

Post by ericdschmidt » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 5:40 AM UTC

Happydayz wrote: post #107

darkmighty wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's referring to america... and I have to disagree. What's so important about an ethnicity that it has to be kept at all costs? Culture is probably worth preserving, but often culture is simply "the way it's always been" -- I'd argue the opposite, bringing different cultures together, if done right, will promote creating new culture that make more sense for today's reality, and not some 19th century status quo. Crea…

So there is no value in a uniquely Norwegian culture? Or Korean? Or Japanese? One of the side effects of totally open borders is that human culture might homogenize, with strong bias toward the developing world where birthrates are exceptionally high. I think Indian and Bangladeshi culture are both wonderful, however I do not think they are necessary worth more than Norwegian, Japanese, etc.