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Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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Post by CGamesPlay »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #509

I've had a few fantasies that if I become wealthy enough ever that I want to buy a whole bunch of multiple city blocks in my city make them public parks. But I did have that same fear is how do I ensure they survive? Do I do a land trust or something like that? How would a donation survive so something like this doesn't happen?

Enshrine it in actual law. Theodore Roosevelt donated some of his land when the national parks became law, and that’s held up reasonably well. There’s no such thing as a guarantee, but it is pretty decent precedence.

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Post by qsera »

zug_zug wrote: post #279

It's exhausting that the "solution" to problems like this is getting tens or hundreds of thousands of citizens stressed until enough public attention gives some small chance of redress. I'm not calling for violence, but if we can't get these things fixed in court there has to be a more effect and more forceful avenue for protest than venting on internet forums.

It is quite easy to get the government do if the people really want it. Just stop using a car. Stop buying gas. Stop consuming the stuff and cause business real pain.

Then the government will listen. Because businesses, not people, are what governments really listen to.

In India, Gandhiji made it work like 5 decades back in India against the British, where the whole country rejected consumption of foreign goods on his call.

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Post by kelvinjps10 »

johannes1234321 wrote: post #349
morkalork wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans don't even protest on weekdays, they wait for a weekend to do it. So it is easy to say that they aren't serious but on the other hand, they're a lot closer to the knife's edge of stability and missing a day of work can get them fired (especially in at-will employment states), Europe is not like this as much.

And if they lose the job they lose their insurance, thus their medication. This increases stakes to protest quite a lot, compared to European worker protection and social security.

But in latin America and poor countries don't have these benefits and still people protest way worse

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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Post by CGamesPlay »

gustavus wrote: post #498
chmod775 wrote: post #494

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling that a park is stretching it, even if someone named it "park". That's a playground, some grass, and a parking space. Not something where you can enjoy a stroll for a couple hours. A city of ~20k doesn't have to go crazy here, but surely you can maintain something nicer (especially once you have that data center money!)

I recently moved from the inter-mountain West to the east and that is one thing that is fascinating to me is how differently the term park is used between the 2. Out west a couple of swing sets and a slide with a small patch of grass is considered a park whereas out east a park is multi acre wilderness with trees streams and miles of trails. It's just funny to me how even though it's the same country it's 2 totally d…

I don't think this is an east-coast/west-coast thing, but I think people all over the USA use the word "park" to mean anything on the scale of corner playground to national wilderness area.

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fylo wrote: post #314
zug_zug wrote: post #279

It's exhausting that the "solution" to problems like this is getting tens or hundreds of thousands of citizens stressed until enough public attention gives some small chance of redress. I'm not calling for violence, but if we can't get these things fixed in court there has to be a more effect and more forceful avenue for protest than venting on internet forums.

You're edging on terrorism

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Post by deaux »

fylo wrote: post #314
zug_zug wrote: post #279

It's exhausting that the "solution" to problems like this is getting tens or hundreds of thousands of citizens stressed until enough public attention gives some small chance of redress. I'm not calling for violence, but if we can't get these things fixed in court there has to be a more effect and more forceful avenue for protest than venting on internet forums.

You're edging on terrorism

I am a freedom fighter, you are a rebel, and he is a terrorist.

You're edging on support of a terrorist state. The entire goal of groups like ICE is to instill terror. It doesn't get more terrorist than that.

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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Post by deaux »

zug_zug wrote: post #279

It's exhausting that the "solution" to problems like this is getting tens or hundreds of thousands of citizens stressed until enough public attention gives some small chance of redress. I'm not calling for violence, but if we can't get these things fixed in court there has to be a more effect and more forceful avenue for protest than venting on internet forums.

> I'm not calling for violence

We all know that you are, and that that's fine, and you're just hedging because you're scared of the list you'll be placed on. Do not worry, you're on it already.

You would never have mentioned it if you weren't.

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