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Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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You used the magic word "fax". I think you just told me you work in the medical industry without telling me you work in the medical industry.

How else am I supposed to transmit all this PHI I'm digging up out of the file shed? I hear that new-fangled inter-network world-wide-web is insecure and full of hackers! I've spent far too much of my life around faxes.

lol

We consult with a medium sized medical group that interfaces with all of the larger hospital groups and tons of smaller clinics around the area. They had me do an audit on their fax server because they were getting complaints that a lot of faxes weren't getting to their destination. Well.

Almost 90% of outbound faxes didn't get delivered. What?

So I started researching the destination numbers of those faxes. About 2/3 of those numbers continuously rang, were continuously busy, had been disconnected at some point, or were voice answered by someone who had no idea that they were supposed to be making fax noises at me.

Sadly, the story ends there. I didn't have the stomach to investigate how these records were getting places if most of the faxes were destined to fax machines that no longer existed.

Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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I'd still say getting 7 years of free OS supports for hardware is pretty incredible. All-in-ones like iMacs are always going to be wasteful on the environmental side of things faster because displays will outlive the usefulness of the rest of it by a large large margin. At least Apple does try a bit to be a responsible recycler and you can always take your old hardware to them.

Free OS updates is the norm now though. If you'd bought a Windows PC 7 years ago, or used Linux, or just about any other desktop OS, you'd have had free updates.

I guess you forgot about windows TPM controversy. Comments like this make me realize a good majority have no idea what they are talking about and still decide to voice an uninformed opinion.

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> The thing about Apple is that as the "IT" guy for my family, its ecosystem is the one which needs the least attention from me. This is true in business/enterprise IT also. Any big company that's done a switch, or at least offered an employee choice, almost immediately saw a huge drop in help desk workload from mac users. Legacy win32 apps aside, it's baffling to me that Windows is still the dominant share of comput…

Mac users are consistently the highest needs users in my environment. Ymmv. Samba is still broken. Microsoft apps don't work. You can use them for Adobe. But even then, performance per dollar is poor. Adobe flies on much cheaper Windows hardware in the side by side testing we've done. I'm the Director of IT for a 160M revenue company. We allow Macs, and we support them. But I don't share your take on the benefits. I…

Not surprising. I've used Macs since 2005, and 3P software and GPU support have always been weak points. People blame the lack of popularity, but macOS is inherently a moving target to support. You're talking about corp machines running Adobe software with GPU acceleration, so yeah. Only reason I might do that on a Mac is if it's my personal machine and I want it to be nice for other stuff, but it wouldn't be cheap.

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I shouldn’t need an agent to configure it. Is this the new “just compile it from source”?

You do not in fact need an agent. Without it, you'll just need more time to inform/educate yourself and do it yourself. Agents in this case are just accelerators.

Agreed. I've setup many VPS servers. I've configured both Apache and NGINX by hand. It's the sort of thing that I only do sometimes, therefore I have to look up docs each time.

This year, I wanted to run an experiment that was extremely low stakes. I had CC ssh into a VPS and do everything for me. It worked.

Did it have any security gaps? I don't know, I didn't audit. It didn't matter. It was a personal project that had no personal data to risk and the project lasted ~1month (I'd actually audit if I was keeping it). I saw no signs that my server became a bot, fwiw.

I've had agents figure out git repos that were interesting to me but not worth putting in effort on my own. Not things I depend on, just things that I otherwise wouldn't have tested. It's too bad the subsidized pricing is coming to an end. There's a lot that I wouldn't have bothered doing myself that was cheap to have an agent do that won't be worth it again. I'll try out a fraction of the stuff by hand like before and that's fine, but it was a fun ~six months.

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It’s not this websites thinking, it’s every tech person’s thinking. Apple is an example of great consumer focus vs tech requests of “but I want to run Kubernetes on my iPad it’s powerful enough”. That’s thanks to Steve Jobs. iPhone was a #1 smartphone for a decade without ever mentioning the RAM or CPU MHz in the announcements or marketing material. Even if there was less RAM or worse specs than the Snapdragon at the…

> Even if there was less RAM or worse specs than the Snapdragon at the time, iPhone was still faster and sold more. iPhone had worse display for a _very_ long time. The Galaxy S1 had an OLED display. It took Apple 7 years to introduce that technology in their premium lineup, and 10 years to introduce it to their regular lineup.

> The Galaxy S1 had an OLED display.

A quick web search told me that this was introduced in 2010 (could be Google AI lying, I didn't look further). If that's accurate, there's really no comparison. A better screen on an OS that was catching up at the time… I'm not really sure when Android became a good competitor, but I don't think it was quite there in 2010.

I remember trying out Android tablets at a store ~2017. They were all trash. I couldn't believe it. I don't know where they are now, but IMO both the iPhone and the iPad shipped with high quality 1.0 software, despite deficiencies like a lack of copy/paste on iPhone 1.0.

Other companies were shipping devices with lackluster software for a good amount of time. Android became a real smartphone OS a long time ago. I assume it's reasonable on tablets today. But there was a period of time where it was a pretty terrible regardless of hardware specs. Kinda like the iPad now.

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Dell has just announced an 8 Gig of RAM version of their XPS laptop and the PR surrounding the launch is pretty funny. > "Apple's MacBook Neo is a capable machine, and its arrival confirms that there's real appetite for premium quality at accessible prices," said Dell. Who could have known that people wanted quality AND affordability?

> Who could have known that people wanted quality AND affordability? If you have spent any time in those gigantic corporations, you know that there is effectively no one there who can actually speak sense and effect change. No one can say "our laptops are too crappy and too expensive, let's fix it" and actually make it happen. The people in the marketing department who wrote "Apple's MacBook Neo is a capable machine,…

> probably don't give much of a shit about Dell and its products, other than the fact that they get a paycheck from the company every 2 weeks; many of them probably have MacBooks at home

I worked at an Apple Store before I got the opportunity to move into the corporate world. I was doing sales and I was super enthusiastic about the products (~2005).

I remember this couple thinking about buying their first Mac. The lady was skeptical and asked if I had a Mac at home. I was so surprised by the question that I blurted out, "Of course!" It was like asking if I breathed oxygen.

They both laughed and she seemed to trust me after that. She saw that I wasn't a used car salesman and they bought whatever it was that we were discussing, probably an iMac.

I always chuckle to myself at how preposterous the question seemed to me at the time. But yeah, a lot of people just show up for the paycheck and have absolutely no buy-in about what their company makes.

Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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It's always surprising when companies don't understand that people what inexpensive, quality goods. The original Ford Maverick retailed for $19,995, Ford absolutely could not keep up with production. Ultimately, they raised prices both because they could and in order to reduce demand because they could not actually product enough units.

I would happily buy a laptop with medium specs but apple build quality. I don't know if the Neo's build quality is on par with their other laptops but if it is it's probably my next laptop.

I bought one for my partner after my favorite tech podcast reported positively on the build quality. It's excellent and also her first Mac. Feels just as good as my MacBook Pro and the MacBook Air. They preserved the Apple experience.

When I finally convinced my father to get a Mac ~2005/2006, he left me a voicemail saying that all he'd done was take it out of the box and he could already tell that it was a good purchase.

Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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Things I hope will improve with Neo 2. SSD Speed. Currently 1.2GB/s. That is slower than MacBook Pro 2015. Hopefully we see 2GB/s as in iPhone 17 Air. Backlit Keyboard. A19 with 12GB Memory. That extra 4GB headroom make all the difference for everyday user. If they could sell this even for $699 everyone should just get a Neo

I have iStat Menus on my Mac showing me my SSD usage (R/W) in my menubar at all times. I have rarely ever seen it go over 1GB/s, and I'm on an M1 Pro MacBook Pro, using it pretty heavily. I see 1GB/s when using the xip command to decompress Xcode bundles. When doing gatekeeper checks on large app bundles, I typically see somewhere around 500MB/s, bottlenecked by the CPU performing the checks. What kind of work are yo…

Paging. Part of something not mentioned was also IOPS. Are you on 8GB with your M1?

With 8GB you will have lots of swaps happening. Especially with Safari. That extra SSD is going to make quite a lot of difference. Together with 12GB Memory this would be enough for ~90%+ usage.

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I've been wondering for a while, how much of macos can you strip out and still run a VM with something like linux in it? Ideally passing through as much of the hardware as possible, and booting right into that config. Running it natively is ideal, but projects like Asahi are forced to play catch up porting another OS to new devices.

Probably as good as that can get is something like WSL. Microsoft put a lot into that but still not the same as just using Linux. I wish Apple / MS would do the opposite and build their OS on top of Linux but of course that will never happen.

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Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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M1/M2 matches Panther lake i5 chips in performance and still excels at efficiency. Hard to imagine Wildcat can do anything extra here.

I'm sorry but your first claim has no basis in reality. Any benchmark shows the lowest end Panther Lake chip performing at least 15% faster than M1 and 10% faster than M2 in single core performance which is where Apple Silicon excels, and greatly outperforming them in both multi-core and GPU performance while having equivalent battery life.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/7322vs4922/Intel-5-315-...

Not sure what you're referring to. 5-10% of different is exactly what I meant by "matching". The real-life battery numbers also don't support your statement, as tested by e.g. notebookcheck.com

And, again, the actual context is Wildcat Lake here, an step down from Panther Lake.

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