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Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Post by ericmay »

brandon272 wrote: post #510
ericmay wrote: post #469

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> I can't imagine how much angst much exist after taking on debt to get an education and then this is the job market. Right... which they aren't going to be helped by continuing to find external causes or external enemies which are keeping them down instead of focusing on what they can control and what they can do to make money or make careers. It's nice and it feels good to say these things, but it's not going to ge…

>it's not going to get those same students a job What jobs? The job market is anemic AND these students are literally being told that jobs as we know them are soon to be a thing of the past. At the same time, no one is explaining how they are supposed to pay off debt or put food on the table outside of vague hand waves UBI or AI creating vast prosperity.

Patting themselves on the back doesn’t do anything either except convince people they don’t have agency or that whatever troubles they are experiencing are someone else’s fault.

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Post by maratc »

jappgar wrote: post #483
maratc wrote: post #264

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> If money can buy votes It's not that "money can buy votes," but for a given party money can buy facilities (offices, transportation, food, etc.) and people (activists, coordinators, etc.) and that can bring (not buy ) votes. Printing one "Rodriguez 2027" sign and putting that on your front lawn can be done for free at someone's office; printing ten million of them is a major financial, logistical and organisational…

That's why political parties were invented, so you don't need to create name recognition for every candidate. Those signs aren't changing anyone's mind. But a party is something people can talk about and understand. It's unifying. Giving a fuck means engaging with party politics and making it part of your day to day life (at least during election season). Signs are the laziest and most inconsequential way of supporti…

In 2016, just 400 American families were the source of 50% of all election money that year. If your "candidate" is going to "rein in big tech," how the hell are they supposed to raise money from them? And if they aren't going to do that, where will that money go?

Your views seem to be rather ... idealistic. This TED lecture[0] is only 18 minutes long and it offers rather a chilling perspective on any sensible reform.

[0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw2z9lV3W1g

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Post by contravariant »

bdangubic wrote: post #378
contravariant wrote: post #322

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That's just a baseless assumption. To use AI well you should do the things that allow you to use stuff well . You shouldn't just use it any way you can because you assume that 'not using it at all' is not the best option. This is literally the same with every single technological development.

> This is literally the same with every single technological development. yup, there are a lot of successful companies today not using the internet :)

What's the LLM equivalent to email and a basic webpage?

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Post by registeredcorn »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #488
registeredcorn wrote: post #473

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>I found it extremely entertaining. Forgive me for being nitpicky, but I think that is the entire point that they were making. Entertaining, but not informative. Fun, but not well-argued. Example: I can be extremely engaged while listening to a stand-up comedian deliver an anecdote about why they believe what they believe. It can be incredibly interesting, engaging, and well put. It is not, however, an argument which…

Let me nitpick the nitpick: we're in an attention economy and it's all to easy to have something salient dismissed with TLDR/TLDW. A more cursory glance that makes it easier to ease into a concept is more important than the subject matter expert making an ironclad argument that no one reads. In the context of the internet forum, that was an appropriate video to post.

> I think that is the entire point that they were making. Entertaining, but not informative. Fun, but not well-argued.

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Post by justin66 »

LogicFailsMe wrote: post #463
justin66 wrote: post #455

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I believe the remains of Asimov's literary legacy are probably managed by his daughter along with an agent. Presumably most of the money goes to her too, but I have no idea. In any case she always seemed nice enough.

So when Roman Polanski finally dies, all his works will be okay given they're managed by a non-offending descendant?

A number of his works are better than “okay,” today. You’re welcome to view that as a moral dilemma, or not.

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Post by anal_reactor »

eloisius wrote: post #375
anal_reactor wrote: post #168

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> Our value isn't predicated on our utility. Yes it is. If human life was inherently valuable then the concept of poverty wouldn't exist because the entity that sees it as valuable would be willing to spend resources on maintaining it. > The solution is to recognize the value inherent in us as humans, and to demand public policies that reflect this fact. Most social programs keep expanding until they become unsustain…

>If human life was inherently valuable then the concept of poverty wouldn't exist This only proves that injustice exists. Surprise: injustice still exists. I'm hoping that you're still young and primarily motivated by survival, which can lure you into this cold world view. I think the reality is an inversion of that old "if you're not liberal at 20 you have no heart, but if you're not conservative by 30 you have no b…

> if you're not liberal at 20 you have no heart, but if you're not conservative by 30 you have no brain

This is literally how it went for me.

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Post by johnnyanmac »

registeredcorn wrote: post #514
johnnyanmac wrote: post #488

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Let me nitpick the nitpick: we're in an attention economy and it's all to easy to have something salient dismissed with TLDR/TLDW. A more cursory glance that makes it easier to ease into a concept is more important than the subject matter expert making an ironclad argument that no one reads. In the context of the internet forum, that was an appropriate video to post.

> I think that is the entire point that they were making. Entertaining, but not informative. Fun, but not well-argued.

Thanks for missing my point. Informative doesn't win over as many minds in this day and age. Staying principled in a land of grifts only gets you torn apart.

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Post by damnitbuilds »

gambiting wrote: post #5
damnitbuilds wrote: post #3

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>>In between going on Jew-hating Propal marches Just reminder that being against Israel or its actions in Gaza is neither antisemitic nor Jew-hating.

Just a reminder that going to Israel to rape, mame and kidnap babies, children and old people, then spitting on the corpses of the people your human animals bring back in their trucks means you give up the right to any whining defense of "Oh, oh, they attacked us and bombed the shit out of our child-murdering asses".

Live by the terrorist state of Hamas, die by the army of the Israeli democracy. Israel, where women, gays, arabs, christians, jews, atheists live side by side. And have the same rights as straight men.

Open your eyes, you stupid bastards, to what Hamas has made Gaza into.

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Post by cindyllm »

damnitbuilds wrote: post #518
gambiting wrote: post #5

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>>In between going on Jew-hating Propal marches Just reminder that being against Israel or its actions in Gaza is neither antisemitic nor Jew-hating.

Just a reminder that going to Israel to rape, mame and kidnap babies, children and old people, then spitting on the corpses of the people your human animals bring back in their trucks means you give up the right to any whining defense of "Oh, oh, they attacked us and bombed the shit out of our child-murdering asses". Live by the terrorist state of Hamas, die by the army of the Israeli democracy. Israel, where women,…

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Post by registeredcorn »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #517
registeredcorn wrote: post #514

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> I think that is the entire point that they were making. Entertaining, but not informative. Fun, but not well-argued.

Thanks for missing my point. Informative doesn't win over as many minds in this day and age. Staying principled in a land of grifts only gets you torn apart.

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