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Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons

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Or maybe they leave voluntarily, because the EU is simply not a place to do business? Because the EU has been regulatory-captured by aging tech entities such as Siemens, IBM and SAP? Mistral, Zendesk, Basecamp, etc. left Europe for the US early on. If we take into account European founders who started their companies in the US right away, the list is even longer.

The EU and Europe are different. 27/50ish (depending on who you ask) countries in Europe are EU member states and they collectively have about 3/5 of the European population. My own country - the UK - is (in)famously not a part of the EU and I don't think anyone would seriously claim that we have no technological innovation or successful tech businesses here in Cambridge. The city is practically overflowing with tech…

I'm not going to include Russia or Serbia or even Turkey, when talking about European statistics on entrepreneurship, because the EU is the overarching force that dictates widespread European policy. Talented entrepreneurs from Russia or the Balkans go to London or the US to set up shop anyways (my cofounders being an example).

The UK's business policy since Brexit has been largely dictated by factors outside its control, in the hallways of Washington DC and Brussels. The UK is no longer the forcing function on EU business policy that it was before - it's quite frankly the other way around now.

On founder culture and aspirations, it might be fair to say that the social welfare net provided by the EU countries is generous enough that it discourages entrepreneurship, compared to say the US or China or even India. I won't fault the social net ever, but the fact of the matter is that a growing economy is necessary to facilitate a growing social net. But EU policy has been drafted to strongly favor the incumbents over the startups, to favor the Goliaths over the Davids - even if David happens to be a middle market company trying to make its mark. It's also why EU companies in that position strongly favor American partners instead of European ones - Goliaths don't want to innovate, but they want new innovation regulated so that it doesn't hurt their bottom line.

Another factor is that 10 years since Brexit, the EU still hasn't created a viable enough exit alternative that could replace the London of the 2010s. While it's much easier for an American company to go public, EU policy does not make it easy. Which is why founders look at acquisitions or PE as a much more viable route to exit.

> I could easily imagine a startup here developing the next generation of car control system and then selling the IP to one of those companies as the exit strategy.

That's already happening across the EU, and herein is why it's very difficult to create homegrown champions. American companies and Chinese companies are encouraged to control the entire vertical chain, it being a matter of policy in the latter. EU companies have to resort to licensing agreements and a potential future acquisition.

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In fact, you can run any form of European legal entity from any country. I.e., I can create an spółka z ograniczoną odpowiedzialnością (sp. z o.o.) in Poland, but run the business in Germany. It would be complicated and stupid, but legal.

You can't hire people cross-border though. That sp. z o.o. would need a German subsidiary if it wanted to employ people in Germany.

You can! A foreign EU company just needs to get a "Betriebsnummer" (company number) from "Bundesagentur für Arbeit", which doesn't even require a Betriebsstätte (permanent business establishment, a branch that is not legally independent) or a "Zweigniederlassung" (branch office, legally semi-independent, but still part of the same entity) - and certainly not a subsidiary that has it's own legal persona.

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My E36 was fantastic as well. Automatic climate control, heated motorized mirrors, heated monkey pissers, heated power-adjusted leather seats, power windows, power sunroof, dash lights that fluidly adjusted to ambient conditions, two throttle bodies (in series -- one for the loud pedal, one for the ASC+T), and a single-DIN radio that was dead-nuts simple to upgrade properly whilst leaving the rest of the factory syst…

Former E36 owner here as well. What are "monkey pissers"?

Sorry, that's local vernacular jargon and I should do better to define these terms on introduction of them. ;)

Most people call them windshield washer nozzles, or similar. But I find that they're about as useful for that job as I imagine that a monkey pissing on the window might be, so I find the other description -- while vulgar -- to be a better fit.

Anyway, they're heated on cold-weather E36s. IIRC, it's temperature-activated and independent of the defrost switch.

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It's supposed to go something like this on a ice-crusted day with an E36:

1. Find the door lock completely frozen and inoperable

2. Lift the outside door handle for a few seconds to engage the lock heater (!)

3. Succeed at unlocking car.

4. Get in. Start the car. Turn on the front and rear defrosters and the headlights. Retrieve the scrapey-thing

5. Back outside, start scraping.

6. Get tired of that and climb back inside.

7. Try the wipers to see how clear the windshield isn't.

8. Engage the monkey pissers, which are probably de-iced on their own by now and flowing freely

9. Grumble a bit at the results

10. Go to step 5

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It's hard to believe a car exists that ignores steering input. I suspect you just didn't try hard enough. Perhaps because it was a last-minute decision, you weren't very confident it was safe to change lanes and chose to give up some decision making to the car? > the hypothetical accident there would have been a comparatively minor fender bender. Youtube will tell you that bumping into someone sideways at highway spe…

Oh, I suspect you can overpower it, if that's what you mean. However, if you weren't expecting it'd do something like that in the first place, it can accomplish a nonzero change to your trajectory before you intervene. Believe me or don't, but, if you operate a vehicle with these assistive systems, I encourage you to carefully familiarize yourself with the ways in which they may unexpectedly affect its behaviour.

Of course there'll be some effect but your reflexes are doing a closed loop control system with the trajectory of the vehicle as input, so you'll automatically overpower stuck controls without even thinking. If you're steering with your knees or your little finger, it might cause a crash but that would be thing not to do, not have lane assist behave differently.

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Little she knows that if she uses the “self driving” from Tesla she may get into a death trap.

It’s way safer than most human drivers. I use it all of the time.

It’s better than you?

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It’s way safer than most human drivers. I use it all of the time.

It’s better than you?

Than on the worst day of your life after your dog died and you didn't get any sleep? Yes.

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It’s better than you?

Than on the worst day of your life after your dog died and you didn't get any sleep? Yes.

Maybe you shouldn’t drive that day. Tesla is not FSD. In case there is an accident you are the one responsible. Looking on a photo of your dog while Tesla is ramming into someone? Your day just got worse

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Than on the worst day of your life after your dog died and you didn't get any sleep? Yes.

Maybe you shouldn’t drive that day. Tesla is not FSD. In case there is an accident you are the one responsible. Looking on a photo of your dog while Tesla is ramming into someone? Your day just got worse

Yes. Let me just be sure to make only totally rational decisions like staying home instead of going to a friend's house while I'm emotionally distraught while driving. I'm sure everyone out there is able to accomplish that.

Tesla's, along with most other modern cars, have an AEB system, which hits the brakes if the driver is ramming into something.

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It’s way safer than most human drivers. I use it all of the time.

Do the stats back up your anecdote? iirc Tesla autopilot has some bad failure cases

humans kill ~400/day just in the usa
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