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Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by numbers »

base698 wrote: post #308
artdigital wrote: post #17

Grok is my favorite model for chatting, and my favorite voice mode. It seems to be the only voice mode that isn't routing to a extremely cheap model (like Haiku), and has been the highest quality out of all the frontier ones. When you subscribe to SuperGrok you can also create a "council" of agents, each with their own system prompt and when you ask something, they will all get asked in parallel to come to a conclusi…

Starting to like the lack of memory. Claude remembers I have a grill and will interject in conversations about how maybe this thing would go well with BBQ when it's unrelated or just also about food.

:D that's like my Claude where it loves to point out that I have an ADU in the backyard in unrelated situations.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by somenameforme »

pdimitar wrote: post #474
gusmally wrote: post #466

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you seem interested in the ins and outs of English, I want to say that "retort" has a connotation of anger or sharpness. Your response reads more like a "rebuttal" to me. This is not a correction; maybe retort is what you meant and I'm not trying to be the English police. I just like discussing the intricacies of language :)

Actually super helpful, thank you!

Like most of all widely spoken languages, there's a lot of regional variation in English. There's even a bunch of quizzes online where you answer 20 questions about phrasings, and they can tell you where you're from with a disconcertingly high degree of accuracy.

In my experience a "retort" is sharp or witty, but certainly not angry, whereas the word "rebuttal" is itself essentially antagonistic. You might use it when referring to something or someone that you look down upon, whereas a more neutral term would simply be "response."

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by sergiotapia »

swarnie wrote: post #499
sergiotapia wrote: post #492

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It's my go to for searches, DIY, personal finance, and more general slice of life AI. Once it is as good as Kimi K2.6 for coding, I will probably use Grok exclusively. It really is the best conversational AI I've used. It has helped me fix a broken fridge, and a broken electrical oven. Literally saved me at least $4k this year. Edit: Also saved me $600 because I did my taxes with it. H&R Block is cooked. Edit 2: Oh s…

How do you save money on taxes? The taxes you owe is a mathematical solve which is always the same....

deductions

child credits

points per paycheck proper setup

and of course, avoiding to pay an accountant to set run all this if you are a normal w2 worker.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by pdimitar »

somenameforme wrote: post #512
pdimitar wrote: post #474

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Actually super helpful, thank you!

Like most of all widely spoken languages, there's a lot of regional variation in English. There's even a bunch of quizzes online where you answer 20 questions about phrasings, and they can tell you where you're from with a disconcertingly high degree of accuracy. In my experience a "retort" is sharp or witty, but certainly not angry, whereas the word "rebuttal" is itself essentially antagonistic. You might use it whe…

Just as I was reading your comment I remembered that Samuel Jackson used "retort" in his speech in the "Pulp Fiction" movie and was wondering whether he was openly antagonistic there (I mean, he killed a bunch of guys with a pistol shortly afterwards but still) or was it a witticism.

I admit I am lost on these nuances and I usually kind of use whatever idiom comes to mind, which yes, likely would net me some weird looks depending on where I am geographically.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by Petersipoi »

mrhottakes wrote: post #448
ivraatiems wrote: post #424

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A job candidate being a virulent racist would not be beside the point. It would be disqualifying to even let them interview.

It's very telling how many HN posters think "being good at programming" can counterbalance "is a virulent racist"

No, it's telling that people like you have watered that word down so much that people don't trust it anymore.

So yes, if someone says "they're a great programmer, but they're racist" I'm going to ask, how are they racist? And at that point, if they can't give me a specific reason for why they're racist, I'm going to hire the guy.

It's also telling that you seem to think a tool is capable of "being racist". Hopefully this doesn't ruin your relationship with it, but LLM's cant think.

Re: Grok 4.3

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culi wrote: post #427
GorbachevyChase wrote: post #352

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I know it’s really important to write and vocalize one’s alignment with the values of the day, but I don’t think language models being structurally incapable of offending your favorite race/ethnicity/caste should be an objective of AI labs. Language models are just systems and I’m not sure why we think users are not responsible for how they use their outputs. For the same reasons, I don’t dismiss the utility pens as…

It's being biased on purpose. Musk has intervened multiple times when he believed Grok's responses were too "woke" or "leftist". https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/02/technology/elon-musk-grok... In response to Grok saying that the "woke mind virus is often exaggerated" the prompt was tweaked so that Grok now says "The woke mind virus 'poses significant risks'" If you truly believed in what your comment states then you…

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Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by solidasparagus »

tel wrote: post #493
solidasparagus wrote: post #416

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I don't agree. I avoided grok because of Musk for a long time, but having used it more, I think it is one the best models around and grok.com is an extremely good chat app. My evaluation was based on trying it before gpt-5.5 and obvious before grok 4.3, but it was, for me, the 2nd best model/chat app after claude. It's much less edgelordy than you might think based on the news.

All my usage of Grok for technical topics shows it regularly deeply misunderstanding things and just parroting back my question in fancy language. It’s the only frontier model I get this impression of. That makes it super annoying when it tries to market itself as good at engineering tasks when it seems (to me) to be much worse at them.

Interesting. I have not had this experience. I would like to learn more. Can you point me to any examples or domains where I might be able to replicate this?

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by soerxpso »

sundarurfriend wrote: post #27

As an English-as-second-language speaker and writer, one thing Grok really shines at is capturing the tone and level of "formality" of a piece of text and the replicating it correctly. It seems to understand the little human subtleties of language in a way the other major providers don't. Chatgpt goes overly stiff and formal sounding, or ends up in a weird "aye guvnor" type informal language (Claude is sometimes bett…

A friend of mine uses it for D&D prep and has told me that it's good for that in particular because of its ability to match the flavor/style that he's going for. He prefers ChatGPT for everything else.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by Petersipoi »

culi wrote: post #427
GorbachevyChase wrote: post #352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know it’s really important to write and vocalize one’s alignment with the values of the day, but I don’t think language models being structurally incapable of offending your favorite race/ethnicity/caste should be an objective of AI labs. Language models are just systems and I’m not sure why we think users are not responsible for how they use their outputs. For the same reasons, I don’t dismiss the utility pens as…

It's being biased on purpose. Musk has intervened multiple times when he believed Grok's responses were too "woke" or "leftist". https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/02/technology/elon-musk-grok... In response to Grok saying that the "woke mind virus is often exaggerated" the prompt was tweaked so that Grok now says "The woke mind virus 'poses significant risks'" If you truly believed in what your comment states then you…

Have you ever written a comment about how any of the other LLMs are editorializing in favor of the left, and how that's a problem? Because if you have, I'd love to see the evidence of your intellectual consistency.

But something tells me you're just doing the same thing that you're calling out

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by Drakexor »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #481

This is barely on-topic so I'll keep it ultra-brief: I believe it is unethical to financially support Elon Musk. I won't do it, and I'm sad that so many do.

Do you say this on every Grok/Tesla/SpaceX post or has something here prompted you differently?
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