Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.
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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#512Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.
Soooo Sam Altman replied “ok boomer” to that message. Wtf?
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#513This is a risky move. I might have paid $20/month for my personal projects but the Max subscription is a bit steep. Now I'm going to learn more about local models. I don't need to be as good as a frontier model. Good enough and free from all this drama is a win for me
If you are looking at open models, check out Pi, as its very extensible and comes with a sane default. Maybe even roll your own. Most harnesses (claude, codex, opencode etc.) assume that you use a cloud model. There’s no sense of optimization or finer control.
I've been running pi.dev + codex (GPT-5.4) for a long time for my workhorse stuff.
Actually tried caveman mode yesterday and it made everything SO MUCH BETTER. GPT-5.4 has a habit of being extremely verbose to a ridiculous degree, it's like it's writing a report for a CTO or something and padding everything as much as possible to sound smart.
With caveman it just gives me lists of stuff in a compact format. Perfect.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#514Anthropic should be increasing the value and services they offer not reducing it.
It’s the Apple model. Yes you pay a ton more. But my 2013 MacBook Pro 15 I got in college lasted 10 years and was still fine even when it was stolen. That’s what you pay for. You pay for a ton of built in apps and functionality and quality.
Arbitrarily removing things is customer and more importantantly good will hostile.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#515Apparently it's just an A/B test. Legit LMAO moment, speedrunning reputation destruction to your entire userbase just to test a question whose answer you can probably already guess. --- > For clarity, we're running a small test on ~2% of new prosumer signups. Existing Pro and Max subscribers aren't affected. > When we launched Max a year ago, it didn't include Claude Code, Cowork didn't exist, and agents that run for…
> If the subscriptions are unprofitable, then just communicate honestly, raise the price or lower limits for new subscribers transparently, and grandfather in existing users.
This. Why do so many companies fail to get this? Anthropic's user base, in particular, is intelligent enough to understand their constraints.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#516Next they’ll slowly reduce how much CC usage you can get out of the $100 Max plan, then introduce a new $300 “Max Plus” plan with “40x” usage. “You asked, and we listened: Introducing Max Plus, our biggest plan yet, designed for those…” blah blah
They already effectively halved it with the introduction of Opus 4.7 and the new tokenizer that basically gives you about half as much usage for the same price.. Convenient to price based on tokens, and leave what a token is a moving target..
Source: I could easily work with the anthropic quotas before. Now I run into a wall constantly.
I haven't changed the way I work, I've become more conscious of context sizes than before if anything.
Still run out of quota constantly with 4.7.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#517Earlier quoted context omitted.
LLM monsters are deeply unprofitable, going by the industry hearsay (which is the only thing we have, given ultra secrecy of the LLM corporations). The only two LLM companies which disclosed their finances without lies, were two Chinese corporations and they, unsurprisingly, were deeply in red. Remember the old saying about boiling a frog? LLM corporations need to make most of their users pay hundreds per month, asap…
I assume the Chinese corporations can operate in the red forever and be subsidized by the Chinese government.
That's true of any company in any country. If you can convince the government that your company is sufficiently important, you can get subsidized.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#518They're trying to find every way to enshittify their partially unprofitable service. When they find a way that sticks, they'll go with it. This has become the preferred way of doing tech business in the US. Create a great thing, give it away for free, hook users in, try to squeeze them. In theory competition should limit this kind of behaviour, but for some reason they big companies all wait on another to start enshittification in unison. How this is legal still puzzles me but evidently that's how it goes.
Here's my hot take: Anthropic et al. are trying to make developing a subscription-only job, and they've done that by illegally pirating pretty much the whole Internet. If they were to go out of business tomorrow and serving models was to become a commoditized service like storage we'd be all better off. Sure, we would have less research on frontier models, but we don't need AGI, we need good local models, RAM and good open source / weight AI tools.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#519Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're not losing anything. They have much more demand than they could ever fulfill to care anymore about promotional or subsidized user groups.
Until magically all their demand vaporizes. I suspect a lot of people are like me. They got into this at the $20/month level individually to check things out. I'm not stressing things out, so I haven't moved up, but the moment I bump into a limit, I'll pull the trigger by default. Until then, I'm the sleeping dog, and you should let me lie. Well, Anthropic decided to kick me. Now, I'm investing the time to figure out…
I don't think they need the $20/month users when there are some who use over $1000 in tokens per day.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#520Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have to assume they're compute constrained and thus need to either raise prices or cut their lowest-margin products (which amounts to more or less the same thing, but with different optics), or turn away new users. My assumption is that people are able to very easily saturate Pro with Claude Code and therefore even though the quotas are lower (more than proportionally) the utilization of those quotas is higher enou…
I think there is a definite possibility that they aren't compute constrained, but rather trying to improve a sorry cash flow situation before IPO. Of course, I don't have real insight into available compute, but the vibe slope seems to have dropped a bit, at the same time as new GPUs are being shoved into datacenters as fast as possible.
If that's the case, what will happen after IPO? Will they become good again?