ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

Post by DrinkyBird » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 12:49 PM UTC

Imnimo wrote: post #149

MyNameIsNickT wrote: post #49

Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

It's interesting to me that OpenAI considers scraping to be a form of abuse.

Post by fireflash38 » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 12:52 PM UTC

nikitaga wrote: post #489

PunchyHamster wrote: post #256

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> Scraping static content from a website at near-zero marginal cost to its server, vs scraping an expensive LLM service provided for free, are different things. I bet people being fucking DDOSed by AI bots disagree Also the fucking ignorance assuming it's "static content" and not something needing code running

All this reactionary outrage in the comments is funny. And lame. Yes, for the vast majority of the internet, serving traffic is near zero marginal cost. Not for LLMs though – those requests are orders of magnitude more expensive. This isn't controversial at all, it's a well understood fact, outside of this irrationally angry thread at least. I don't know, maybe you don't understand the economic term "marginal cost",…

Post by ipaddr » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 12:59 PM UTC

nikitaga wrote: post #489

PunchyHamster wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Scraping static content from a website at near-zero marginal cost to its server, vs scraping an expensive LLM service provided for free, are different things. I bet people being fucking DDOSed by AI bots disagree Also the fucking ignorance assuming it's "static content" and not something needing code running

All this reactionary outrage in the comments is funny. And lame. Yes, for the vast majority of the internet, serving traffic is near zero marginal cost. Not for LLMs though – those requests are orders of magnitude more expensive. This isn't controversial at all, it's a well understood fact, outside of this irrationally angry thread at least. I don't know, maybe you don't understand the economic term "marginal cost",…

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 1:05 PM UTC

nozzlegear wrote: post #278

mememememememo wrote: post #157

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Local models for privacy. You want to go to the world's best hotel? You are gonna be on their CCTV. Staying at home is crappier but private. Unfortunately for the first time moores law isn't helping (e.g. give a poor person an old laptop and install linux they will be fine). They can do that and all good except no LLM.

> Staying at home is crappier but private. Doesn't make sense, my home is much more preferable to a hotel

Post by frig57 » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 1:15 PM UTC

Aurornis wrote: post #238

lucasfin000 wrote: post #32

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The real frustrating part is that Cloudflare's "definition" of suspicious keeps changing and expanding. VPN users, privacy-first browsers, uncommon IP ranges, they all get flagged. The people most likely to get caught by these systems are exactly the ones who care most about their privacy, and not the bots that they are apparently targeting.

> The people most likely to get caught by these systems are exactly the ones who care most about their privacy, and not the bots that they are apparently targeting. In my brief experience with abuse mitigation, connections coming from VPNs or unusual IP ranges were very significantly more likely to be associated with abuse. It depends on your users. VPNs aren’t common at all, even though you hear about them a lot on…