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Re: Student beauty and grades under in-person and remote teaching

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=IQ Yes, crickets.

https://www.aporiamagazine.com/p/how-to-lose-tenure-with-one...

"How to lose tenure with one sentence": "Maybe it will be fine to pursue my career in Florida."

Anyway, my point stands - there is plenty of research on IQ. Only if you are specifically interested in correlating IQ with genetics have ethicists at large determined your research may be harmful. We can debate about that, I guess, but the idea that one cannot use IQ in research is a hyperbole.

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Obviously, yes. This is not circular: it is by no means tautological that people who did well on test X will do well on a completely different test Y that tests different knowledge and skills. The fact fact that it does gives strong evidence to the value of using these tests for admission.

It depends on what skills are necessary to succeed at test X and Y. While the subject matter or details thereof might differ, it's possible that things like "knowing how to learn to the test (i.e. cramming)" or "reading between the lines of what the teacher/professor says is relevant" belongs to these skills. And these can absolutely be transferred between test X and Y. So the question is, how much do these tests act…

The research shows that the tests are predictive almost precisely to the extent they test “meta skills”. We can even measure how much individual questions test meta skills vs specific skills. You can learn about this by searching for the terms “factor analysis” and “g-loading”.

Re: Student beauty and grades under in-person and remote teaching

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I dunno...Wolves are pretty much endangered anywhere, but the cute and friendly ones became dogs and are everywhere. Cats spread all over the world from the desert because of advantages. Advantages mean you survive and procreate.

So ever-more vulture capitalists and lawyers, and ever-fewer actual honest workers?

Nature really doesn't give a crap whether or not others of yours species dominate you, nor how you feel about it.

Have a genetic legacy -- That's the only way you win. Or don't and be crying about it.

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No, I used it as a euphemism for “fascist”, which is a somewhat stronger descriptor than simply “wrong”.

The notion that the deeply oppressive status quo is somehow fair and just is one of the worst post-hoc rationalizations that purportedly smart people can fall into. Open your eyes.

Re: Student beauty and grades under in-person and remote teaching

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https://www.aporiamagazine.com/p/how-to-lose-tenure-with-one...

"How to lose tenure with one sentence": "Maybe it will be fine to pursue my career in Florida." Anyway, my point stands - there is plenty of research on IQ. Only if you are specifically interested in correlating IQ with genetics have ethicists at large determined your research may be harmful. We can debate about that, I guess, but the idea that one cannot use IQ in research is a hyperbole.

Actually, I want to add something to this. The general vibe in this research area is NOT that you cannot compare IQ with genes. Indeed, its more or less an accepted fact that some portion of IQ and measures like it are indeed heritable. The specific issue this person faced is in the use of race. I'm not suggesting that we accept all the woke orthodoxy whole cloth, but race really is a socially constructed concept. No person out there in the world is "of a given race" as a scientific fact. People have genes, they don't have races. The scientific community recognizes that genes influence intelligence, but has no interest in promulgating the frankly dumb idea that humans have distinct races, probably because the last time people got really into that idea it lead to concentration camps, apartheid, and the pointless destruction of vast swaths of human potential.

The main issue with the research described is that it uses genes to construct a racial narrative. If that is the world you want to live in, you do you, I guess, but I would prefer that people not be pigeon holed on the basis of (for example) arbitrary qualities like "European Ancestry," which the person explicitly states they constructed a sort of genetic fingerprint for. In a meritocratic society people should be judged on their performance, not some inference people make about what genes they have on the basis of their level of melanin, to refer to the study this guy is talking about.

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The problem with this stance is that the alternative (making people feel bad) will exacerbate the problem by contributing to feelings of hopelessness and ostracism. The first prerequisite for making difficult changes is a supportive environment - not a judgmental one.

My personal experience was that the shame I'd been made to feel throughout middle school for being overweight fueled the motivation to buckle down and lose weight when I was independent and mature enough to come up with a diet that I could sustain.

Glad to hear you came out alright.

I’ll offer this argument: Society aggressively tells overweight people that it is bad to be overweight, in no uncertain terms, and with significant repercussions. Yet overweight people exist. Hence, the strategy of shaming people until they lose weight does not work in the general or average case.

Re: Student beauty and grades under in-person and remote teaching

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=IQ Yes, crickets.

https://www.aporiamagazine.com/p/how-to-lose-tenure-with-one...

Brian Pesta was fired for malfeasance. Specifically, he gained access to data sets not authorized for his race/IQ research and not only published bullshit race/IQ stuff off it, but also (as I understand it) circulated that data to a small community of race/IQ weirdos.

That's a grave violation. The data sets in question are extremely valuable for all kinds of science, and the reason they exist is that the people donating their data trust it won't be used for noncompliant reasons. It's not substantially different than a company like 23 Or Me surreptitiously giving your genomic data to their weird Substacker friends.

Plenty of people do legitimate race/IQ work. You managed to find cite the one person who managed to do it tortiously.

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> Being fat is now a style a preference. > Being attractive gets you all sorts of unwarranted hatred, targets on your back etc. for doing nothing. I'm not aware of what fantasy land exists where attractive people are hated and being fat is the new style trend. Certainly not there one where GLP-1s become the hottest new pharmaceutical.

I think they're assuming everyone who prefers being thin would be on one of those drugs, which is what makes being fat a style choice.

I'm not sure how anyone can make that assumption. The drugs are not cheap enough for this to be the case.
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