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Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by pcthrowaway »

jiggawatts wrote: post #458
Hikikomori wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the children shot in the head as reported by western doctors working there?

I looked into that one, because it was so outlandish but repeated by multiple sources and reported by reputable journalists. The original reporting was carefully phrased to make it sound like IDF soldiers were "sniping" little children, taking careful aim and deliberately shooting them in the head, which is... monstrous. Where this narrative starts to breaks down is that snipers don't aim for the head, because it's t…

There are videos of Palestinians being shot in the head, yes (NSFL links below)

Here's a video from last year of an elderly man carrying a white flag being shot in the head: https://www.wgbh.org/tv-shows/newshour/clip/war-in-the-holy-... (this news site removed the moment of impact but I'm sure you can still find it)

Here's a video of IDF in the West Bank head-shotting an unarmed elderly man who posed no threat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_David_Ben_Avraham In this one, the man had converted to Judaism after feeling an affinity to the religion due to his grandfather saving the lives of more than 10 Jews during the 1929 Hebron massacre. His Aliyah request was denied, and he was executed while attempting to visit a settlement (by invitation) for Torah study

This one from 2018 was widely circulated (this victim was shot in the leg, although based on the IDF recording here many had assumed this was also a headshot): https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/video-appears-...

Here's a very detailed report on 15 aid workers in Gaza being executed at point blank range and dumped into a mass grave last year: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israeli-soldiers-tel-sultan-g...

These are just ones that come to mind as some of the most brutal ones, but there are many, many more videos of the IDF executing unarmed Palestinians who are posing no threat by head-shot. And for every one we see there are likely 4 or 5 more which we don't see because they weren't independently recorded.

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Post by throwaw12 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #489
throwaw12 wrote: post #328

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Okay, Afghanistan as well. Afghanistan is obviously not neutral, but they haven't participated in supporting US-Israeli attack on Iran How about now?

> Afghanistan as well Sure, if you’re Turkmenistan or Afghanistan, the latter which is being bombed by Pakistan, you’re fine. Also if you’re Azerbaijan, fuck you. What’s the argument? Like, Oman was trusted by parts of Tehran on diplomatic matters. They still got bombed. Trying to rationalize this is untenable—it was a stupid strategy of throwing toys out of the pram.

Doesn't look like you understood your own words about neutrality

Azerbaijan does intelligence cooperation with Israel, against Iran, so it's not a neutral party.

Oman, also shares their facilities to the US military.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by thrance »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #247
spaghetdefects wrote: post #55

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No, the US/Israel are losing the war. Iran is successfully controlling the economic situation and continuously removing western forces from the Middle East. They are also successfully targeting Israel every day. There's very little support for this war in the US and Trump is on the ropes.

> US/Israel are losing the war This is incorrect. It’s grinding to a stalemate.

The US just allowed Iran to sell their oil [1]. If that's not a sign that Iran has the upper hand, I don't know what is.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-authorizes-tempor...

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Post by thrance »

gambutin wrote: post #92
cardanome wrote: post #15

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Iran is fighting for survival, Israel and the US are fighting by choice. They attacked Iran not the other way round. US bases, even if also used by UK which aides US it their war, are legitimate targets. US imperialism is the greatest threat to the world.

Iranian kids have been chanting death to Israel and death to USA for 47 years now. They’ve been waiting for this.

You'll be surprised to hear about what they have been chanting in the streets of Tel Aviv for decades. This cycle of violence can't be resolved by more violence. By starting this war for no reason, Israel and the US will only succeed in further radicalizing the Iranian people against them.

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Post by thrance »

10xDev wrote: post #65

Can we just leave countries alone, like we do with North Korea?

Not until they get nukes. Which is inevitable now, as we've shown Iran that until then, they are liable to being carpet bombed once a year by the imperialist powers that be. And then we'll have one more rogue nation in the world, hurrah!

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Post by ofrzeta »

roncesvalles wrote: post #506
chasd00 wrote: post #350

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The thing is Iran has long promised their max range was 2k Km and so defensive only. This shows that was a lie.

All countries publicly understate the max range that their missiles can go. This is generally understood in the defense community.

What's the point? Naively one would think it is the opposite.

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Post by frm88 »

arbuge wrote: post #420
pphysch wrote: post #217

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Allegedly, according to the same political factions that aggressively bombed Iran just weeks later.

No, not just according to those factions. From the same CBS News article: > The U.S.-based Human Rights Activists News Agency has recorded more than 7,000 killings, with the vast majority being protesters, while warning the toll could be far higher. Neither CBS News nor this agency are friends of the factions you mention. Facts are stubborn things.

Critics of the Iranian government, primarily in the West, claim that thousands of people have died in the protests. In particular, the US-based Human Rights Activists News Agency (HRANA) put the death toll at 2,615 on Wednesday.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/15/what-is-hrana-the-u...

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Post by [deleted] »

alephnerd wrote: post #454
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #449

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HN won't even moderate when people's comments are flagged to death simply because they have the wrong opinion on Iran/Israel threads, showing the threads are just being used to push a one sided narrative not serve as a place for discussion.

That is actually one of my indicators - I found significantly higher flagging and mutual acrimony about West Asian affairs during non-US hours versus US hours irrespective of bias. What will be interesting is what happens on HN tomorrow - Sunday is the equivalent of Monday in MENA. Additionally, tne fact it took hours for this to get flagged is worrisome for me. I have also noticed increased usage of HackerSmacker. H…

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Post by porridgeraisin »

alephnerd wrote: post #25
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #9

Diego Garcia is strategically very important to global security according to the US Had something actually struck within the ADIZ there would have been massive implications. My guess is they intentionally failed as a warning shot. This isn’t a random act and its quite the signal if you know what it means, Iran knows what it did here.

> This isn’t a random act and its quite the signal if you know what it means, Iran knows what it did here. It also publicizes Iran-NK military cooperation on ballistics development, which the Biden admin warned about [0], as well as Iran-Russia military cooperation (which was obviously much less under-the-radar). It also shows the merger of the Ukraine conflict with the West Asia conflict, and was a major reason why…

How is this a merger of those two conflicts?

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Post by jhanschoo »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #225
big-and-small wrote: post #214

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Except it would be very weird goal to achieve because it's only give more reasons to bomb whole country into oblivion and justify deployment of ground troops.

There is probably a hardline faction within Iran that still thinks it gains from further bombing and forced isolation.

Why would Iran end up further isolated due to this war, and out of escalation? (your sentence is slightly ambiguous so I assume that you are referring to it.) If it successfully asserts control over the Strait as it seems to presently be doing, it should be able to negotiate a peace favorable to itself. Even with the status quo, I don't know how that figures into things, but the US has temporarily lifted sanctions on Iranian oil.

I don't follow the news very well, but from what I know the claim that you make isn't very obviously true but needs some evidence for it to stand.

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