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4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Living here the decline is tangible. And this is West Oxfordshire; not one of the poorer parts of the country. An example in microcosm: a local village suffered road flooding due to failed maintenance of water pipes. Our rent-seeking privatized water company effected the minimum repair required by regulation. The next section of old pipe burst almost immediately, flooding the road further for most of January, utterly…

> An example in microcosm: a local village suffered road flooding due to failed maintenance of water pipes Your example only compares against the UK past. It has zero relevancy because it says nothing about relative change against other countries. Anecdotally for the USA, I went to New Orleans last year, and I was stunned at the rotting infrastructure. Coming from New Zealand, the USA seems to be trying to copy the t…

I was in New Orleans last year and everything looked brand new. The whole city was basically rebuilt 15 years ago.

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It's irrational to allow anyone other than yourself to have nukes. That's the whole point of having them, and the reason why nobody is going to bother asking for permission. No country with any self respect wants to end up becoming another Venezuela.

Did it work out better for North Korea or Iran?

North Korea is still standing and even got Trump to play diplomacy. Only reason Iran got attacked is the fact they didn't have nukes yet.

Venezuela showed everyone what happens when you're a toothless country. USA shows up at your door uninvited, fucks your shit up, takes your oil and kidnaps your president for good measure, just to tack on some extra humiliation.

Don't get me wrong, Maduro deserved an even worse fate than what he got. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. It's still a cautionary tale for nations worldwide. It can happen to you. China continues to erode the economic power of the USA. They could very well discover one day that their military might is all they have left. Who's to say they won't suddenly decide to capitalize on their advantage before it evaporates?

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People here seem to be thinking this a UK/Europe-specific phenomenon, but there's plenty of examples of the US "seizing" sites that were never hosted in the USA either, and even put pressure on countries to extradite people involved even if they never broke any laws in the country they're living in. One I remember was a site hosting streams of the 2022 football world cup. Or a number of Iranian-affiliated news sites…

Nah they're aware. They just think the US has the absolute right to be a hypocrite and not to be called out on it, ever

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A gf asked to go on a trip to England/Ireland and I told her I will go to Brazil or Colombia before I go to the UK. Im not going to risk getting in trouble because I made a post online or discussed immigration or trans people in the wrong way according to them.

> "Im not going to risk getting in trouble because I made a post online or discussed immigration or trans people in the wrong way according to them." This is a mis-truth which has been spread by Joe Rogan and his ilk. Political speech is very much protected in UK law. You won't get in "trouble" if you make posts against immigration or trans people. J.K. Rowling and Ricky Gervais certainly haven't been locked up. Yes,…

> What will get you in trouble in the UK is threatening violence against people or posting hate speech that encourages others to do so. But this is also true in the USA and in most countries.

The line is quite thin and ambiguous though. If they want to get someone they will and find that various remarks “encourage violence”.

Almost any opinion that isn't nice can be argued to encourage violence.

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The UK used to be the 4th largest economy [0] so being 6th is still indicative of decline. [0] https://www.madisontrust.com/information-center/visualizatio...

Is it indicative of "economic irrelevance"?

Kinda. It's a single-digit percentage of just the US and China, clustered with a lot of other countries of roughly the same size [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi...

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>Ofcom really thinks that their laws apply globally. Ofcom is probably full of non technical people who have been given a specific set of (stupid) instructions including that if its on the internet, its a product being sold to the UK.

"Just following orders"

Pretty much. But the outcome being a bunch of emails and court action instead of like, genocide.

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> An example in microcosm: a local village suffered road flooding due to failed maintenance of water pipes Your example only compares against the UK past. It has zero relevancy because it says nothing about relative change against other countries. Anecdotally for the USA, I went to New Orleans last year, and I was stunned at the rotting infrastructure. Coming from New Zealand, the USA seems to be trying to copy the t…

I was in New Orleans last year and everything looked brand new. The whole city was basically rebuilt 15 years ago.

I know what a rebuilt city looks like, because I come from one. Hurricane Katrina was 2005. Christchurch Earthquake was 2011. In my opinion, my home town has recovered better and faster from destruction than New Orleans has.

I also live within a floodzone. There is a high probability I will learn how we deal with flooding in the future (different flooding - shallower and lacking the winds and hopefully better pre-planning for avoiding harm).

> everything looked brand new

Absolutely not, to me.

And the conversation is regarding infrastructure. A bunch of Christchurch infrastructure is brand new.

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Not so slowly. They've gone from a more or less respectable smaller country to more or less politically, culturally, and economically irrelevant in less than 10 years. I even question whether it's rational to allow them to have nukes; they should probably be required to give them up to some country that has a shot at remaining a stable and predictable geopolitical entity over the next century.

Their cultural decline seems to have definitely accelerated recently. Even 10-15 years ago it seemed like there was so much more British influence in the media, a lot more films and television set in Britain. It seems like the London Olympics were a kind of last hurrah. Even here in Australia which has always historically had more British influence than anywhere else it's receded - there's very little focus on their…

It's deliberate isolationism, the same isolationism that drove Brexit

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Europeans are following the wrong path on regulating the internet. Instead of calling it internet safety and annoy people, they should just make those services and the people running them liable for the damages. The same goes for the freedom of speech. Europeans should make it legal guarantee instead of trying to build walls around speech. So when X or 4Chan etc deletes a post, it may lead to freedom of speech fines…

The UK is no longer part of Europe.

Oh sorry did it shift into the mid Atlantic or something?

You need to learn the difference between Europe the continent and the EU the political union. The two are not interchangeable.

The British continued to be European post 2020

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