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Re: AirPods Max 2

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Post by ubermonkey »

StefanKarpinski wrote: post #145

Wild. I have been eagerly awaiting this refresh, but this doesn't address either of the main issues with the original AirPods Max: 1. Still just as heavy. The AirPods Max sound quite good, but they are very heavy, to the point of being fairly uncomfortable after listening for any longer amount of time. This release as the exact same weight as the originals (13.6 oz). 2. Still no off button/position. They stay partial…

Mileage varies, obviously.

I've worn these for multiple cross-country and transatlantic flights, and have not noticed them being too heavy for comfort, but that's definitely gonna be a personal thing.

>which means they're constantly out of power when you want to use them.

I have not found this to be a serious problem, assuming you put them in the case. Even out of the case, though, they keep a charge a while -- which I unfortunately know b/c I lost my case on a plane a while back.

I have the original model. I haven't seen a huge need to upgrade so far -- mine still work great, have excellent battery life, and so replacing them isn't on my radar. Honestly there's a real chance mine will hang on long enough be the last remaining Lightning-connector thing in our house.

Re: AirPods Max 2

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Post by tech_hutch »

whynotminot wrote: post #306
chihuahua wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was Beats. At first it was found in counterfeit Beats, but later the same was found in genuine Beats. And then guess who bought Beats for their exquisite metal weight technology? That's right, it was Apple.

They bought them for the streaming service that came with it. Not for fake weights in headphones.

Streaming service?

Re: AirPods Max 2

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Post by ubermonkey »

ex-aws-dude wrote: post #114

I don't understand how a pair of headphones can be $549 meanwhile the Macbook Neo is $599 The pricing on these always seemed a bit crazy to me, like the value is way off compared to other Apple products

They're priced vs. peer closed-ear headphones, not the rest of the Mac line. They perform accordingly, at least once you factor in a mild Apple premium (say, 15-20%).

I say this because I was able to compare them to my own $400 Sennheisers (which are somewhat awkward because they're wired, and really require a headphone amp to shine), and found the Max to be just as good.

There are also a number of online reviewers who've said the same thing, among them developer, Tumblr millionaire, and headphone addict Marco Arment. He famously described the Max as his favorite closed-back headphone.

Re: AirPods Max 2

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Post by ubermonkey »

mvdtnz wrote: post #311
porphyra wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't this pricing pretty in line with other high end ANC headphones? e.g. Bowers & Wilkins PX8 ($699), Focal Bathys ($849), Sony WH-1000XM6 ($399), Kef Mu7 ($399), Bose QC Ultra ($449)

Weird response. He said "I don't understand how a pair of headphones can be $549" and you responded "here are some headphones that are priced at $549". Yeah. We know. It's just hard to understand how anyone can value headphones at this price. It's lunacy.

Wait til you find out about literally every other area of discretionary spending.

Re: AirPods Max 2

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Post by ubermonkey »

Paria_Stark wrote: post #227
momoschili wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Different target markets. Audiophiles and wealth exhibitionists are much more willing to pay the large amount

Doubt audiophiles are really the target for the AirPods Max.

I mean, it depends on your definition.

I have a nontrivial listening rig in my house. I've spent thousands in headphones over the years (which happens quickly at $300-500 a pop). The finest ones I've owned MIGHT edge the Max out in certain conditions, but

- The Max add ANC - The Max are wireless - The Max are seamlessly integrated with the rest of my Apple gear

so to me that makes them the go-to -- so much so that I actually sold off the other headphones when we moved last year. I just wasn't using them.

The tl;dr is that the Max -- even the first gen -- do indeed perform very, very well.

Re: AirPods Max 2

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Post by nerdjon »

I have been waiting to for the next version of the Max for a while and I am disappointed that we still don't have some sort of wireless charging solution for it.

My biggest issue with the Max I have now (and why they just don't get a ton of use) is keeping them charged. I would love for a dock or something. I know there are third party solutions but they require putting a little plug into the plug in the headphones, and it is not hard to find issues that people have had with those so I have not done it.

An official solution from Apple would be amazing, something as simple as what the Astro A50 does.

Re: AirPods Max 2

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Post by StefanKarpinski »

baby wrote: post #420
StefanKarpinski wrote: post #145

Wild. I have been eagerly awaiting this refresh, but this doesn't address either of the main issues with the original AirPods Max: 1. Still just as heavy. The AirPods Max sound quite good, but they are very heavy, to the point of being fairly uncomfortable after listening for any longer amount of time. This release as the exact same weight as the originals (13.6 oz). 2. Still no off button/position. They stay partial…

The 400g don’t bother me personally. I agree not being able to turn it off sucks, I switched to android for some time and it would just leave the pair on until the battery died. I think it’s basically a feature to force users to stay within the iOS ecosystem

How does headphones not turning off force users to stay in the iOS ecosystem?

Re: AirPods Max 2

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Post by 46493168 »

tianshuo wrote: post #499

The Original Airpods Max had terrible connectivity. The bluetooth would break down for days, and all instructions on the internet would tell you needed to remove the device and re-add it. This was not just a single incident, but kept on happening to LOTS of users. Frustrated, I went to Apple service to learn that they could not fix it and could only replace it for like 70% of a new one. So, if Apple keeps on building…

This version (finally!) has an updated version of Bluetooth (5.3 vs 5.0). BLE was finalized in 5.2. So fingers crossed that it’s fixed.

Re: AirPods Max 2

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway27448 wrote: post #433
ramijames wrote: post #408

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also a Bose QC user and I can't speak highly enough about them. Best piece of tech that I ever bought. Going on three years now and they are still like new. I have three very loud, rambunctious kids and they are a life-saver.

How easy is it to switch between devices? That was always the main draw of airpods for me.

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Re: AirPods Max 2

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Post by htk »

htk wrote: post #221
StefanKarpinski wrote: post #145

Wild. I have been eagerly awaiting this refresh, but this doesn't address either of the main issues with the original AirPods Max: 1. Still just as heavy. The AirPods Max sound quite good, but they are very heavy, to the point of being fairly uncomfortable after listening for any longer amount of time. This release as the exact same weight as the originals (13.6 oz). 2. Still no off button/position. They stay partial…

Absolutely! I have both the AirPods Max and the Bose QC Ultra and even though my whole ecosystem is Apple, the QC Ultra is a lot more comfortable reliable on day to day usage. Comfort is due to weight, and reliability is the batter is predictably on the QC Ultra, but on the Max I never know if the battery went all down because I can't turn it off.

Thanks to the kind soul who upvoted this horrendously typed reply. Unfortunately I can't edit it anymore.
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