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“Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by concats »

solid_fuel wrote: post #496
natas wrote: post #383

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

> That said, this business model has historically proven effective for companies such as IBM. It is until it isn't, but I think this is the same trap as not training up junior engineers. The consumer market is often where future engineers and professionals first interact with technology, being exposed to Windows early and being able to use it at school and at home have always been major drivers of adoption at work. L…

What choice do they really have though? More and more consumers completely forgo owning a regular computer and only use a phone or a tablet now a days. And among the ones who do own a computer there's still a strong trend towards not paying for software, presumably a behavior taught to them by the overwhelming success of strictly ad-financed apps.

It's easy to forget that us here on HN are several standard deviations from the norm.

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Post by zelphirkalt »

BizarroLand wrote: post #280
ryandrake wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll have to wear the fecal probe at all times while using Windows 12, for security reasons, and every command you issue will cause it to move around and take another sample, in order to make sure you are still physically there. On the plus side, it will make it painfully obvious to every Windows user how they are being fucked by Microsoft.

They could also make it so that whenever you click your mouse copilot opens. Then you have to tell copilot what you wanted to do and then copilot will do it for you. You: clicks on web browser in task bar Copilot: I see you clicked on your web browser. Do you want to open your web browser? You: Yes. Copilot: Great. I will do that for you. Opens browser What website did you want to go to? Youtube? learn.microsoft.com?…

Actually, they could then report, that everyone uses Copilot! It must be a phenomenal tool, if everyone uses it ... Somewhere someone sits thinking about how to increase Copilot usage by users of Windows. Next management extra pay package achieved!

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Post by direwolf20 »

nephihaha wrote: post #253
bilekas wrote: post #95

So this is the company pushing to be an integral part of everyone's lives, forcing it down everyone's throat without consent. And they're already moderation a light hearted joke about their low quality products. Doesn't really bode well for the future product Vision.

It's a monopoly. Unless you are a wealthy hipster with money to burn on Apple products. (They also spy on you.)

A monopoly on what? The most popular OS is from Google.

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

glaslong wrote: post #446
natas wrote: post #383

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

I'm always astounded by the tendency to bet it all on core competencies and wind down every other effort that's profitable but not profitable _enough _ As if times don't change, innovation never happens, and your accessory plays of today are never the overtaking market of tomorrow.

Kodak comes to mind. They invented digital photography, but their film people deliberately kneecapped their digital people. Killed the company.

I worked for a camera company that made boatloads of cash from point-and-shoot cameras. That entire business was pretty much turned into chum by smartphones. I remember them refusing to even take the iPhone seriously, when it was announced. They took a serious hit, but seem to be recovering.

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

dajt wrote: post #435
natas wrote: post #383

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

That's been obvious for years. It feels like they're extracting whatever remaining money they can get from the home PC market while it lasts but won't much miss it when it's gone. I'm surprised they haven't given up on xbox and games but perhaps there's enough money there to keep it going.

Nadella has been the best thing to happen to MS since Gates. He came from Azure.

I’m pretty sure that Amazon now makes most of their money from AWS.

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Post by JasonADrury »

bigfishrunning wrote: post #315
JasonADrury wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Banning slashdot-esque nonsense is not banning "everything except soulless corporate dronespeak"

But if they want to get rid of "slashdot-esque nonsense", they should behave in a way that doesn't encourage it. The fact that the jokes are cringe and played-out is beside the point; this isn't going to change anyone's attitude.

> But if they want to get rid of "slashdot-esque nonsense", they should behave in a way that doesn't encourage it.

Sure, and their mistake here was 100% the fact that they chose to host this chat on Discord, home to the cringiest crowd on the internet.

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Post by hypercube33 »

Manuel_D wrote: post #477
matthewfcarlson wrote: post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting to me as well as an ex-microsofter who worked on surface devices. Leadership (at least below the VP level) knew they were getting killed by Chromebooks and tried a few times to get a low cost device (Surface Go 1/2 for example) that ran a slimmed down version of windows (Windows S?). It tries to be more like chrome OS (hard to mess up, easy to flatten and restore a fresh OS on) but kind of just throw…

There's a growing set of ARM windows laptops that might bite into the Chromebook market. The surface laptop 7 is pretty nice and comes in both large(ish) 15 inch and small 13.8 inch form factors.

All of the ARM laptops are priced as premium business models in the $900-1700 range and kind of fall down in that space - Qualcomm until recently even refused to release any drivers to anyone not a developer partner and it's honestly still not even close to consumer/business friendly. The hardware is capable of doing what people need the culture around it is just not aligned.

Also it's a joke to run OpenGL on Windows ARM (it fully works just no one makes it anything easy)

My x13s laptop can almost run A tier games without a fan which is impressive but it really feels disconnected and unsupported from all parties making these laptops.

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Post by hypercube33 »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #455
natas wrote: post #383

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

> According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. > Her perspective was that consumer-facing products are not the primary revenue drivers and, therefore, are not central to executive priorities. This does not explain why Microsoft then does not consider the consumer products as "stable (somewhat 'legacy') platfor…

After using agentic AI that can actually do things (like cursor or even GitHub Copilot) using the AI in Microsoft products feels like an absolute joke. People want it to do actual things like apply a template to their PowerPoint or fill out a spreadsheet etc. but it just copies the work and makes you a new file to download pulling you absolutely out of the workflow. I've seen users excited for it and then get a new file to download in the chat and just quit using it completely in disappointment.

Even the developer tools are clunky and slow to use (SSMS, Visual Studio, VSCode) or can't do simple things like make a new file and put code it generates in.

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Post by tonoto »

ralferoo wrote: post #20

Hehe, this reminds me of 30 years ago when people used to stylise it as Micro$oft or creatively misspell it as Microshaft, etc. Even on the Amiga, there was the filesystem that could read PC format disks that was called MessyDos. It just seems like the next generation has discovered what an easy name it is to make puns from.

It amazes me that 2026 corporations still choose MS Windows as their base for operations.. together with the Mordor 365 as the mail platform.
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