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An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward
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#512> Again I do not know why MJ Rathbun decided based on your PR comment to post some kind of takedown blog post, This wording is detached from reality and conveniently absolves responsibility from the person who did this. There was one decision maker involved here, and it was the person who decided to run the program that produced this text and posted it online. It's not a second, independent being. It's a computer pro…
If you are holding a gun, and you cannot predict or control what the bullets will hit, you do not fire the gun . If you have a program, and you cannot predict or control what effect it will have, you do not run the program .
On the other hand, the phrase "footgun" didn't come out of nowhere. You won't run the program, but someone else will build it, and sell it to someone who will.
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#513Earlier quoted context omitted.
Great. If they can find such public accounts, so can you. Find us one. So far, every post you have made has convinced me of the opposite of what you claim because you haven't been able to produce even one example. This isn't a matter of proving that such threats are common , it's about proving the exist .
> so can you. I don't feel obligated to provide evidence based on some vague suspicion about "verified" accounts. If they want to find it, go ahead. Why is that such a heavy ask? Here, https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/search/?q=death+threat&cId=7... The problem is, of course, that now you can say "but those aren't verified!" and now it's tossed back at me to keep trying to meet some "bar" for this. Or this, https://ww…
Note: due to reddit search being stupid, you'll have to check the "limit my search to r/aiwars" box and re-run the search to get anything relevant.
Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward
#514Right, the agent published a hit piece on Scott. But I think Scott is getting overly dramatic. First, he published at least three hit pieces on the agent. Second, he actually managed to get the agent shut down. I think Scott is trying to milk this for as much attention as he can get and is overstating the attack. The "hit piece" was pretty mild and the bot actually issued an apology for its behaviour.
> First, he published at least three hit pieces on the agent. No. > Second, he actually managed to get the agent shut down. He asked crabby-rathbun's operator to stop its GitHub activity. This was so GitHub would not delete the account. This was to preserve records of what happened.[1] The operator could have chosen to continue running the agent more responsibly. And what was the proof the operator shut it down? > th…
>> the bot actually issued an apology for its behaviour.
> This was meaningless.
Why? Was you also excuse the initial hit piece as meaningless?
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#515Earlier quoted context omitted.
Out of interest, could you give me an example of a feature that it one-shotted that would have taken you a whole day?
The example from yesterday: I have a large C# application. In this application I have a functionality to convert some group of settings into a tree model (a list of commands to generate this tree). There are a lot of weird settings and special cases. I asked claude to extract this logic into a separate python module. It succesfully one-shot that, and I would estimate it as 2 days work for me (and I wrote the original…
Seems reasonable, but if it's just copy pasting, doesn't seem like that would take you a whole day. Maybe on the order of an hour at most.
Were you exaggerating earlier or do you have more examples?
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#516Earlier quoted context omitted.
Out of interest, could you give me an example of a feature that it one-shotted that would have taken you a whole day?
The example from yesterday: I have a large C# application. In this application I have a functionality to convert some group of settings into a tree model (a list of commands to generate this tree). There are a lot of weird settings and special cases. I asked claude to extract this logic into a separate python module. It succesfully one-shot that, and I would estimate it as 2 days work for me (and I wrote the original…
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#517Earlier quoted context omitted.
The example from yesterday: I have a large C# application. In this application I have a functionality to convert some group of settings into a tree model (a list of commands to generate this tree). There are a lot of weird settings and special cases. I asked claude to extract this logic into a separate python module. It succesfully one-shot that, and I would estimate it as 2 days work for me (and I wrote the original…
Seems reasonable, but if it's just copy pasting, doesn't seem like that would take you a whole day. Maybe on the order of an hour at most. Were you exaggerating earlier or do you have more examples?
This is a two-day task for me. If you could do it in one hour, then you're a 10x programmer compared to me.
You can browse the code at .com/slop/hn_tb/
I have also sloped the simple code viewer. So you can make your judgement if it looks like 1 hour task.
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#518Earlier quoted context omitted.
Remember when GPT-3 had a $100 spending cap because the model was too dangerous to be let out into the wild? Between these models egging people on to suicide, straightforward jailbreaks, and now damage caused by what seems to be a pretty trivial set of instructions running in a loop, I have no idea what AI safety research at these companies is actually doing. I don't think their definition of "safety" involves protec…
>I have no idea what AI safety research at these companies is actually doing. If you looked at AI safety before the days of LLMs you'd have realized that AI safety is hard. Like really really hard. >the operators of AI for what their AI does. This is like saying that you should punish a company after it dumps plutonium in your yard ruining it for the next million years after everyone warned them it was going to leak.…
> Being reactionary to dangerous events is not an intelligent plan of action.
Yes but in capitalist systems this is basically the only way we operate.
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#519Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dont see Occam taking a side here. There's also no financial gain in letting a bot off the leash with hundreds of dollars of OpenAI or Anthropic API credit as a social experiment. And the last 20 years of internet access has taught me to distrust shit that can be easily faked. Other guy comes forward and claims it, makes a post of his own? Sure I could see that. But nobody has been able to ID the guy. The guys bot…
> The guys bot is making blog posts, and sending him messages, but theres no breadcrumbs leading back to him? That smells very bad sorry. I dont buy it. Could you set that up? I suspect I could pretty quickly, as could most pelple on HN. A few hundred dollars in AI credits isn't a lot of money to a lot of people who are in tech and would have an interest in this either, and getting free AI credits is still absurdly e…
>Could you set that up? I suspect I could pretty quickly, as could most pelple on HN.
Yes.
Its not that its difficult. Its that its expensive and doesn't provide any obvious benefit to the person supposedly doing it.
But this anonymous guy, has given some kind of anonymous interview to the guy getting the balance of attention from his bots activities.
Its not unbelievable. But given the possible alternatives I feel that I absolutely cant buy in to the story as written.
Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward
#520Remaining questions include who would have been liable if, for example, the target wanted to sue for damages?
Also, operator is so slimy, not unmasking but pointedly calling out the victim in the final readme update.