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Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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It's a waste of resources, but please do it! The entire "European Union censors" narrative is a hoax [1], so the portal will achieve nothing, but you've got to do what you've got to do! [1] First, the EU countries have much higher World Press Freedom Index than the US. Second, once you start reading how little there is of the alleged "censorship" in the EU, you realize it's a no-brainer aiming to protect people.

It's not a hoax , it's a straight up lie .

https://archive.ph/bdEqK

>>Police make 30 arrests a day for offensive online messages

>The police are making more than 30 arrests a day over offensive posts on social media and other platforms.

>Thousands of people are being detained and questioned for sending messages that cause “annoyance”, “inconvenience” or “anxiety” to others via the internet, telephone or mail.

>Custody data obtained by The Times shows that officers are making about 12,000 arrests a year under section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 and section 1 of the Malicious Communications Act 1988.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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US talks about freedom and enforces other things... The constitution is just words on paper.

I don’t deny that the current state of the U.S. is unfortunate, even irrational. It has been this way for a very long time. Freedom is the foundational root, not the current fruit. And it’s a testament to freedom that she could withstand for so long.

In the last 50 years of observing the US I haven't seen any evidence to support that being the case.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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> If they didn't have a hand in the protests, that seems like a stunning failure on the part of the US State Department to support their own policies This is nothing but evidence free speculation. What you’re doing is undermining the validity of the protest movement and parroting the line of the Iranian government. It’s disgusting. Take this shit somewhere else.

It's hardly evidence-free, this stuff [0, 1, 2] has been making international news headlines for months. And the last time the US was involved in toppling Iran they used paid-for protests [3] so it is barely speculative to say they'd do again what worked last time. That is just common sense on their part. If they haven't done that, then people will be fired in the US executive for incompetence because that is the cheapest way to achieve their rather clear goals of rolling Iran's power structures. If you don't believe that they did that, who do you think is responsible for that failure on the US government's part?

It is unfortunate that the US's actions right now undermined whatever validity you feel the protests had. I certainly agree it is disgusting - and also bad for US interests so it is curious why they're doing it. Take it up with them if you have a problem with the idea, I'm not a US general or policy maker.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_war

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_strikes_on_Irani...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_buildup...

[3] https://theconversation.com/how-the-cia-toppled-iranian-demo... / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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According to Reuters, it will essentially be a free VPN. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-plans-online-portal-bypass-...

So you're not paying for it? In corporate america how is that going to be moneytized?

I'm sure Palantir will volunteer

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Meanwhile, you can't even go on pornhub in certain states in the US, but yes let's let people go on X and engage in hate speech. In fact I'm sure bad actors will use that site FROM the us, to anonymize their hate speech from Russia/China

complaining about losing the freedom to watch porn without ID while in the same comment pushing for more people to face state action for social media posts

porn is ok, posts that hurt my fee fees and ideological bias bad :'( (both are ok in my opinion btw)

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That's not very "America First" Why are my taxes paying for benefits for Europeans? They already killed USAID.

For Europeans? They don’t need anything like this, zero benefit. May benefit someone in North Korea, China or the United States.

Or the UK

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According to Reuters, it will essentially be a free VPN. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-plans-online-portal-bypass-...

Free ... as in they'll spy on everything you do.

They already record as much global traffic as possible.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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> let people go on X and engage in hate speech So interesting to see it become a popular opinion that we should "not let" people say certain things. Like, if necessary, we should jail people for speaking. I remember learning about the ACLU[1] as a teen, 25 years ago, and how they took a lot of flak for defending people who said things we all agreed were gross, which at first glance seems disgusting. But the lesson we…

American free speech laws are the exception, not the rule. All European free speech laws have always been balanced and weighed up against other laws. This is hardly anything new. If anything, the internet has brought forth a short time period where everything goes and the status quo is now recovering. The legal definition of hate speech (or rather, its local equivalents) is not just "any ideas counter to beliefs I ho…

12 thousand people arrested per year for social media posts is "balanced"? https://archive.ph/bdEqK

at this point it's the #1 principle of the UK government, everything else comes second after putting people in jail for saying the wrong things

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If educating people worked there wouldn’t be any obese people, or drunkards, or smokers, druggies, gamblers, people addicted to doomscrolling or video games or ragebait "news" or… Education is as useful as preaching abstinence at horny teenagers instead of providing access to contraceptives

> If educating people worked there wouldn’t be any obese people, or drunkards This assumes that a) everyone is the same, and b) education would always work. Matthew Perry explained that this is not the case. Some people respond differently to drugs. Whether these people are educated or not, changes very little. Education helps, but not in the way as to be able to bypass physiological aspects completely. > Education i…

Many people believe their mind is a passive reflection of reality, thus any change that happens to mind is infallible by definition. I wonder how can they possibly resist addiction with such mindset.

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And truth.

You don't have to worry about projecting truth. The truth gets through. This is about projecting lies.

> The truth gets through.

It often doesn't at all, drowned amongst lies.

And sometimes it takes a lifetime or two.

It took Boris Yeltsin, who had just become the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union, actually visiting a random grocery store in Houston before he realised what the truth was:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_visit_by_Boris_Yeltsin_to...

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