Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…
Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
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...it gets better: GitHub Copilot is a service, you can buy subscription from here https://github.com/features/copilot . GitHub Copilot is available from website https://github.com/copilot together with services like Spark (not available from other places), Spaces, Agents etc. GitHub Copilot is VSCode extension which you can download at https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=GitHub.c... and use from VSCo…
You want a mess? Put together a nice and clean price list for your friends in the purchasing department. I dare you.
Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
#513Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…
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You're not using the good models and then blaming the tool? Just use claude models. Copilot's main problem seems to be people don't know how to use it. They need to delete all their plugins except the vscode, CLI ones, and disable all models except anthropic ones. The Claude Code reputation diff is greatly exaggerated beyond that.
5.2 Codex is up there with claude lmao
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Yeah I'm on the $20/mo Google plan and have been rate limited maybe twice in 2 months. Tried the equivalent Claude plan for a similar workload and lasted maybe 40 minutes before it asked me to upgrade to Max to continue.
> Yeah I'm on the $20/mo Google plan and have been rate limited maybe twice in 2 months. Tried the equivalent Claude plan for a similar workload and lasted maybe 40 minutes before it asked me to upgrade to Max to continue. The TLDR: The $20/40m cost is more reflective of what inference actually costs, including the amortised cost of the Capex, together with the Opex. The Long Read: I think the reason is because Anthr…
It's for exactly this reason that I believe Google will win the AI race.
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They absolutely do, the CEO has come out and said a few engineers have told him that they dont even write code by hand anymore. To some people that sounds horrifying, but a good engineer would not just take code blindly, they would read it and refine it using Claude, while still saving hundreds of man hours.
> They absolutely do, the CEO has come out and said a few engineers have told him that they dont even write code by hand anymore. To some people that sounds horrifying, but a good engineer would not just take code blindly, they would read it and refine it using Claude, while still saving hundreds of man hours. TBH, that isn't sustainable. Skills atrophy. At some point they are going take the code blindly. Considering…
I keep telling my friends while experienced devs feel extremely productive. The newer ones will likely not develop skills needed to work with finer aspects of code.
This might work for a while, but you do a year or two of this, and then as little as a small Python script will feel like yak shaving.
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This comment is a bit confusing and surprising to me because I tried Antigravity three weeks ago and it was very undercooked. Claude was actually able to identify bugs and get the bigger picture of the project, while Gemini 3 with Antigravity often kept focusing on unimportant details. My default everyday model is still Gemimi 3 in AI Studio, even for programming related problems. But for agentic work Antigravity fel…
Ask it to verify stuff in the browser. It can open a special Chrome instance, browse URLs, click and scroll around, inspect the DOM, and generally do whatever it takes to verify that the problem is actually solved, or it will go back and iterate more. That feedback loop IMO makes it very powerful for client-side or client-server development.
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That's silly. Gmail is a wildly different product than it was when it launched, but I guess it doesn't count since the name is the same? Microsoft may or may not have a "problem" with naming, but if you're going to criticize a product, it's always a good starting place to know what you're criticizing.
Gmail is basically the same today as when I signed up for the beta. It’s a mail app.
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Exactly. In the 50 years history of Microsoft, Office ( Year ) was perhaps the best they did. Nadella might have fixed a few things, but Microsoft still have massive room for improvement in many areas.
Nadella has the golden ship taking on water right now. He has entirely botched AI top to bottom. He has screwed that up to such a degree that it would be difficult to overstate. If he doesn't correct these mistakes extremely soon, he'll unravel much of the progress he made for Microsoft and they'll miss this generation of advancement (which will be the end of their $3 trillion market cap - as the market has recently…