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Post by interestpiqued »

lrvick wrote: post #368
jmward01 wrote: post #90

"and notify the user when such attempts are made to their device." We aren't going to remove the security state. We should make all attempts to, but it won't happen. What needs to happen is accountability. I should be able to turn off sharing personal information and if someone tries I should be notified and have recourse. This should also be retroactive. If I have turned off sharing and someone finds a technical loo…

I turned off all cell carrier tracking 5 years ago. 100% of it. By canceling my cell phone subscription. I know I know, I must be amish, I have heard it all. But I run two tech companies, travel, have a family, and do most of the things most around here probably do other than doom scrolling. So much more time in my own head to think.

You can also just use google family link, make someone else your parent, and lock down the phone. I have a "dumb phone" that is just a refurbished Samsung s22 I bought. Only supports phone calls, messaging, and some credit cards basically.

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Post by astura »

lrvick wrote: post #389
lazide wrote: post #370

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I’m guessing you have a bunch of other people with their own cell phones doing things? That’s the reason most other people are (fundamentally) going to struggle.

Traveling internationally or domestically, booking flights, hotels, going to concerts, theme parks, the movies, organizing hangouts with friends, exploring new locations... all of these things I do just fine by using a web browser on a desktop computer before I leave home, and sometimes printing a couple things. I live a typical middle class lifestyle just without the doom scrolling. All the ways of living an active…

>booking flights, hotels, going to concerts, theme parks, the movies, organizing hangouts with friends, exploring new locations... all of these things I do just fine by using a web browser on a desktop computer before

This won't be possible soon, last couple of venues I went to were digital tickets only. Will call is basically dead now, and that used to be my preferred way of getting into events.

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Post by Forgeties79 »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #465
_heimdall wrote: post #450

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> 40% of the people still approve of everything Trump is doing. Someone saying to a pollster that they approve of Trump is very different from them saying they approve of everything he is doing.

59% say ICE is too aggressive - meaning that 41% approve https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-59-voters-say...

No it means 41% don’t necessarily think they’re too aggressive.

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Post by balamatom »

Alive-in-2025 wrote: post #507
alt227 wrote: post #502

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You cant turn modern smartphones off. You may think you can, but you cant. What you could do is put them in a faraday cage if you wanted.

Please explain what this means, I can turn my cell phone off. How are they able to ping my phone if it has no power? Or are you saying even when you turn it off there's still some part of it that's energized or something?

Yeah, the battery.

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cryptoegorophy wrote: post #499
lrvick wrote: post #368

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I turned off all cell carrier tracking 5 years ago. 100% of it. By canceling my cell phone subscription. I know I know, I must be amish, I have heard it all. But I run two tech companies, travel, have a family, and do most of the things most around here probably do other than doom scrolling. So much more time in my own head to think.

Cancel phone subscription and have family. I don’t understand how you still have family? You don’t have any emergencies?

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Post by balamatom »

cryptoegorophy wrote: post #499
lrvick wrote: post #368

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I turned off all cell carrier tracking 5 years ago. 100% of it. By canceling my cell phone subscription. I know I know, I must be amish, I have heard it all. But I run two tech companies, travel, have a family, and do most of the things most around here probably do other than doom scrolling. So much more time in my own head to think.

Cancel phone subscription and have family. I don’t understand how you still have family? You don’t have any emergencies?

"Somehow" society has converged on a norm where a chance at reproduction is only afforded to smartphone users.

A rather elegant solution to the problem how not every person likes smartphones, no?

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Post by Alive-in-2025 »

Spooky23 wrote: post #510
Alive-in-2025 wrote: post #507

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Please explain what this means, I can turn my cell phone off. How are they able to ping my phone if it has no power? Or are you saying even when you turn it off there's still some part of it that's energized or something?

The baseband isn’t controlled by you and can wake up without your knowledge. It’s less clear what is the “art of the possible” vs. practical for people who aren’t actively under surveillance.

ok, that makes more sense. If the battery is dead then the phone can't track me (or if you had a phone with a removable battery - i have an old one I kept that is like that).

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Post by xandrius »

stanmancan wrote: post #503
donatj wrote: post #442

My friend was going through a pretty massive depression after his mom passed. He'd been with my wife and I at our house for a number of hours talking through it, and apparently not texting his sisters back. They called in a welfare check. We live in a reasonably dense suburb. Police showed up at our front door and asked to speak with him. They just wanted to make sure he was doing OK. He asked them "how did you find…

Did the sisters know where you lived? Curious if the police provided them with an area and the sisters were able to give a proper address?

Why is it so hard to believe that the police can use our devices to backtrack us, as both carriers and police officers have said numerous times?

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Post by xandrius »

interestpiqued wrote: post #511
lrvick wrote: post #368

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I turned off all cell carrier tracking 5 years ago. 100% of it. By canceling my cell phone subscription. I know I know, I must be amish, I have heard it all. But I run two tech companies, travel, have a family, and do most of the things most around here probably do other than doom scrolling. So much more time in my own head to think.

You can also just use google family link, make someone else your parent, and lock down the phone. I have a "dumb phone" that is just a refurbished Samsung s22 I bought. Only supports phone calls, messaging, and some credit cards basically.

How is being able to make phone calls prevent you from being tracked? You're still going to be constantly pinging those cell towers with a unique identifier.
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