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Not quite. The body will just enter ketosis if glucose and glycogen levels are too low.
The grandparent means something a bit different. Muscles can use glucose without _oxygen_ to get short bursts of energy quickly by rearranging glucose molecules (indirectly) into lactic acid. Ketones can't be used for this purpose.
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The fat is about half the calories. Removing all the fat reduces the calories in milk, but now it's 60% sugar calories instead of 33%. It's much.
That's like saying a dollar bill is worth more if I give the rest of my money away.
The meal does not get smaller. The meal has a calorie target, and the milkfat gets replaced with new food. And almost never will that new food be a chunk of lard, so it will increase the carb ratio.
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As a kid I had both lard and butter on bread. Bras with lard and onions is amazing. But also that’s roughly the only combination of that works. Butter is way more versatile.
Perhaps this is a different usage of the word "bra" than I am used to but it sounds uncomfortable.
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In my country the lowest fat milk has added lactose. It did twenty years ago, when I noticed, I have not bought it since
Is it added deliberately or just concentrated as a side-effect? Say fat comprised, let me guess, 5% of whole milk volume. If you take away this 5% v/v component, now everything else in one liter of skim milk is 5% concentrated by comparison, unless they add water.
As a child of the 1980s, I feel so cheated that we were told to eat "5 servings of grains a day" pointing to bread and pasta -- when so many breads have added sugar and so much pasta has added sugar in the sauce. How did no one speak up? Would people ever have spoken up if we didnt have social media?
> many breads have added sugar and so much pasta has added sugar Presumably "5 servings of grains a day" assumes no added sugar, otherwise it would say "5 servings of grains and some sugar a day".
Yes, but -
- Unless youre wealthy, it is difficult to get access to good bread. Far too much of the bread normally available has added sugar or similar products.
- Modern science argues even about the non-added sugar portion (the starches) and whether 5 servings of that was even good. Insulin resistance isnt just caused by added sugar, but just excessive starches (of which we were told to have 5 servings!)
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I really wish people would stop sharing that article as if it means anything. Nina Teicholz is not who you should be getting your science from. Her views are not the scientific consensus. She is not a scientist, she is a journalist with an agenda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Teicholz
Neither should we have trusted Ancel Keys, but here we are
Modern science agrees that saturated fats lead to CVD, but replacing saturated fats with refined carbs also leads to CVD, which Ancel Keys didn't believe (though, to be fair, the populations he studied didn't have access to the types of refined carbohydrates we have today)
The dietary guidelines derived from his work did backfire, but Keys never said to replace saturated fats with refined carbs, which is what ended up happening. He advocated for substituting different fats. But the message that ended up being received was "no fat at all", which no scientist ever actually recommended AFAIU.
The diet he actually recommends is well studied, and found to be protective.
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They will however recommend sugar, just by calling it something else. See "carbohydrates", "complex carbohydrates", "integral grain" and so on. Quite frankly, plain sugar from fruit is less dangerous than the complex carbs from grains. But fructose is still dangerous, just less so.
Starch is the preferred carbohydrate, since digestion depolymerizes it to pure glucose which can be used directly by cells. Cane sugar, a disaccharide, is split by digestion into its constituent glucose and fructose molecules, and the latter must be further processed by the liver. It is 50% fructose. High fructose corn syrup is 55% fructose. A variety of other sugars, such as maltose and lactose occur naturally in a…
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Those studies however generally put beef and sausages into the same "red meat" category. So yeah... that science is, from what I've seen, basically worthless.
there are literally thousands of studies. there's no real scientific debate amongst people that know what they are talking about. Red meat, and any food high in saturated fats, are awful for your heart. full stop. that includes sausage, steak, ham, butter, etc. the people eating "lean steaks" are fooling themselves. There's no such thing as "clean beef" it all has high amounts of bad fats. Are some worse than others?…
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That is incorrect, actually. I find it relatively easy to adhere to keto diet. But the moment I try to introduce more "diverse" foods, I gain weight. Because processed food diet is IMPOSSIBLE to adhere to without gaining weight. Caloric restriction simply doesn't work - your body wants nutrients, not just calories. Which is to say, your willpower will fail sooner or later, unless you find a way of satisfying nutritio…
GP didn’t say processed foods, but I can see why you went there because it’s a good point. That said, there are also those of us who can’t function without carbs (e.g. if I don’t eat them I will be too weak to work out or run, get light-headed, etc.). That doesn’t mean they have to be processed, though, or that it requires gaining weight along with them. I personally survive primarily off of clean meats and homemade…
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Thing about the keto diet is that "hungry all the time" simply... doesn't happen. In fact, bigger problem for keto dieters tends to be being satiated all the time and consequently undereating. "Hungry all the time" is actually vegan thing, but plants have so few calories and pass through so quickly that vegans end up being skinny despite eating literally all the time.
> plants have so few calories You mean leafs, not plants? Cereals, beans, fruits and some roots have plenty of calories but your true fatty friends are all sorts of seeds and nuts. You also can buy their fat extract: oil.
But grains and seeds do seem to be quite obesogenic, yes.