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Post by alex_duf »

monerozcash wrote: post #462
DUDOS wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How they manage to transfer 300TB of data while remaining anonymous is also astonishing.

Rent a dedicated server, setup mullvad wireguard on it or whatever. Download stuff to said server using wireguard. Sure, you can also use Tor. The people engaged in copyright-related illegality generally don't.

But then you need to rent a server without leaving any hint on your real identity. Which means going to some dodgy corners of the internet.

I certainly wouldn't attempt

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by flexagoon »

lukan wrote: post #379
47282847 wrote: post #156

Hmmm I don’t like this. There are sources for music with better quality out there and all this will do is paint them a bigger target for takedowns/prosecution. I am worried about losing their ebook library. Quoting from the announcement: “Generally speaking, music is already fairly well preserved.“ They should have done this as a separate identity.

"and all this will do is paint them a bigger target for takedowns/prosecution" They are based in russia. And they currently do not work together so well with the west. So it is imaginable, that if some people give Trump quite some money, to make Annas takedown part of some deal to lift sanctions after a ceasefire in Ukraine, but .. it does not seem like it. I rather suspect more effort in the west to block access to…

> They are based in russia.

Are you sure? I don't think they are, from what I've seen

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urbandw311er wrote: post #471
lysace wrote: post #247

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I have absolutely no idea why you’re being downvoted. This feels like exactly the sort of project that would be backed by the current Russian administration, given it serves to damage and destabilise businesses in countries that are currently hostile to Russia. — it’s not even a controversial take to say so.

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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by flexagoon »

lysace wrote: post #285
BrokenCogs wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why... does Putin like music more than the next guy?

Why would you want to destroy your enemies' industries, is what you're asking? Although I suppose that is predicated on seeing Russia as the enemy. Strangely not always the norm these days in the new world.

Then why would Anna's Archive also release archives of some of the largest Chinese publishers? Surely Putin wouldn't want to destroy China's industries.

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Post by WadeGrimridge »

Etheryte wrote: post #28

To put this into perspective, What.CD [0] was widely considered to be the music library of Alexandria, unparalleled in both its high quality standard and it's depth. What had in the ballpark of a few million torrents when it got raided and shut down. Anna's rip of Spotify includes roughly 186 million unique records. Granted, the tail end is a mixed bag of bot music and whatnot, but the scale is staggering. [0] https:…

anna's rip has ~86m tracks, not ~186. ~186m is metadata, specifically ISRCs.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by lukifer »

silcoon wrote: post #415
komali2 wrote: post #339

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> Instead of finding ways to improve the market such that the control of content isn't siloed in monopolistic corporations I always assumed the "Anna" in the name was for "Anarchist." My assumption about the archive is that they don't believe there's an ethical solution to the restriction of access to data that involves a capitalist market.

I get your point but then let's not complains if creativity dies and things all look the same. Creative people don't have motivation to produce if they can't make a living out of it.

"I'm not a capitalist, I am a creativist... Capitalists make things to make money, I like to make money to make things." - Eddie Izzard

It's more about the viability of making any kind of living from one's creative work, not motivation to create. (Though for creative works with large upfront costs, eg films, ROI motivation is relevant for backers.)

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Post by edelhans »

cj wrote: post #182
cm2012 wrote: post #179

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Spotify paid out ten billion dollars to artists in 2024. This is not small potatoes - total 2024 music industry merchandise sales was around $14b. Youtube also paid out literally 50x more to creators in 2024 than Patreon had total subscriptions on the platform. These big platform payouts matter a lot.

Some quick Googling shows 1 million streams pays approx $2000. You'd need 40,000,000 streams to earn $80,000.

But you only need to record your song once and get money forever. Nobody pays me per function invocation in production, that would be very nice
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