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Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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post #478

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I think their downfall will be the fact that they don't have a "path to AGI" and have been raising investor money on the promise that they do.

I believethere’s also exponential dislike growing for Altman among most AI users, and that impacts how the brand/company is perceived.

Most AI users outside of HN does not have any idea of who Altman is. ChatGPT is in many circles synonymous to AI so their brand recognition is huge.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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This has been my dream for voice control of PC for ages now. No wake word, no button press, no beeping or nagging, just fluently describe what you want to happen and it does.

without a wake word, it would have to listen and process all parsed audio. you really want everything captured near the device/mic to be sent to external servers?

I might if that's what it takes to make it finally work. The fueling of the previous 15 years was not worth it, but that was then.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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post #427

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Make me think of how every iPhone is the best iPhone yet. Waiting for Apple to say "sorry folks, bad year for iPhone"

Wouldn't you expect that every new iPhone is genuinely the best iPhone? I mean, technology marches on.

It was sarcasm.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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This model is breaking records on my benchmark of choice, which is 'the fraction of Hacker News comments that are positive.' Even people who avoid Google products on principle are impressed. Hardly anyone is arguing that ChatGPT is better in any respect (except brand recognition).

No offense, but that seems like a poor benchmark. These initial vibe checks are easily swayed by personal brand biases.

Fair. No benchmark is perfect.

I do pay special attention to what the most negative comments say (which in this case are unusually positive). And people discussing performance on their own personal benchmarks.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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Until recently, Google was the underdog in the LLM race and OpenAI was the reigning champion. How quickly perceptions shift!

I just want a deepseek moment for an open weights model fast enough to use in my app, I hate paying the big guys.

Isn't deepseek an open weights model?

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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So gemini 3 flash (non thinking) is now the first model to get 50% on my "count the dog legs" image test. Gemini 3 pro got 20%, and everyone else has gotten 0%. I saw benchmarks showing 3 flash is almost trading blows with 3 pro, so I decided to try it. Basically it is an image showing a dog with 5 legs, an extra one photoshopped onto it's torso. Every models counts 4, and gemini 3 pro, while also counting 4, said th…

What if you also number the legs, but with an error like: 1,2,3,5,6. Or 1,2,3, ,4.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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is that faster to say than do, or is it an accessibility or while-driving need?

I don't understand that use case at all. How can you tell it to do all that stuff, if you aren't sitting there glued to the screen yourself?

Because typing on mobile is slow, app switching is slow, text selection and copy-paste are torture. Pretty much the only interaction of the ones OP listed is scrolling.

Plus, if the above worked, the higher level interactions could trivially work too. "Go to event details", "add that to my calendar".

FWIW, I'm starting to embrace using Gemini as general-purpose UI for some scenarios just because it's faster. Most common one, " add to my calendar please."

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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Enterprise is slow. As for developers, we will be switching to Google unless the competition can catch up and deliver a similarly fast model. Enterprise will follow. I don't see any distinction in target markets - it's the same market.

Yeah, this is what I was trying to say in my original comment too. Also I do not really use agentic tasks but I am not sure that gemini 3/3 flash have mcp support/skills support for agentic tasks if not, I feel like they are very low hanging fruits and something that google can try to do too to win the market of agentic tasks over claude too perhaps.

I don't use MCP, but I am using agents in Antigravity.

So far they seem faster with Flash, and with less corruption of files using the Edit tool - or at least it recovered faster.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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Oh wow - I recently tried 3 Pro preview and it was too slow for me. After reading your comment I ran my product benchmark against 2.5 flash, 2.5 pro and 3.0 flash. The results are better AND the response times have stayed the same. What an insane gain - especially considering the price compared to 2.5 Pro. I'm about to get much better results for 1/3rd of the price. Not sure what magic Google did here, but would love…

Curious to learn what a “product benchmark” looks like. Is it evals you use to test prompts/models? A third party tool? Examples from the wild are a great learning tool, anything you’re able to share is appreciated.

Everyone should have their own "pelican riding a bicycle" benchmark they test new models on.

And it shouldn't be shared publicly so that the models won't learn about it accidentally :)

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