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Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Microsoft could disappear tomorrow and it wouldn't affect my life in the slightest. Oh, wait, VSCode would stop working, but there are plenty of alternatives. This relieves me, as MS continues to metastasize at an exponential rate.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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>For example, if you ask ChatGPT’s Agent to book a travel, it’ll open Chromium on Linux in an Azure container, search the query, visit different websites, navigate each page and book a flight ticket using your saved credentials. An AI Agent tries to mimic a human, and it can perform tasks on your behalf while you sit back and relax. Big tech has repeatedly shown that they are not good stewards of end users' privacy a…

Sidenote, why is it always booking a plane ticket that they hype up? It's like the only 2 things any of the marketing can think of is booking plane tickets and replying to emails

It's funny, because it's also one of the most "gotcha-filled" things you can do. Click the wrong box, and they'll stick you in a seat with no leg room or make you pay extra for a carry-on bag. I have very little confidence that an AI would be able to make the "correct" choice on an airline ticket consistently without making a rather impactful mistake.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Is ANYONE reading the article or going to the source prior to posting with outrage? Source: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/experimental-age... (the original article is not available at the moment due to the ongoing Cloudfare outage) What I see is that the AI agent is an optional, experimental off-by-default service that is configured to only have access to the folders you specifically choose. From the MS…

"optional, experimental off-by-default service" is Microsoft-ese for "1-2 years away from being always on and unremovable"

So you're outraged at something that hasn't happened. Or to say it another way, you're outraged because you can imagine something bad happening?

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#514

Microsoft has gone full-blown evil corporation again. No customer validation on any of the AI cruft. No full OPT OUT. Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. I've been a Windows user from day one and I now see a future without it. Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft, but this blind lust for AI, especially in bed with Altman who is pure con artist, is unforgivable. Some of the investment…

Windows more often looks like an ad supported OS pointed AT ME rather than something for me to use to do anything.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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> OpenAI enabled its users to have a sext conversation. Considering that this is only with verified adults, how is this "evil"? I find it more evil to treat full grown adult users as kids and heavily censor their use of LLMs. (Not to detract from the rest of your post, with which I agree).

Yeah the disapproval/disgust I'm seeing everywhere, from pretty much every side that I keep my eye on, about OpenAI enabling erotica generation with ChatGPT is so frustrating, because it seems like just Puritanism and censorship, and desiring to treat adults like children as you say.

Looks like OpenAI can do anything it desires, but if an indie artist tries to take money for NSFW content, or even just make it for free publicly - they get barred from using payment processors and such.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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"optional, experimental off-by-default service" is Microsoft-ese for "1-2 years away from being always on and unremovable"

So you're outraged at something that hasn't happened. Or to say it another way, you're outraged because you can imagine something bad happening?

From a corporation with a proven track record in those things? Let's not pretend like they should be given the benefit of the doubt.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Microsoft was never not a full-blown evil corporation. What they had, at their peak, is some software that worked well. In the background, same evil corporation as ever. I can't even write a top example why. Just take a glance at the documentation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft

There was a time when it looked like they were less "evil". There was a period punctuated by less anticompetitive behavior, embracing open source, no significant user-hostile moves, etc. and naively it did look like they are focused on the product not on abusing competitors or users. Can't say if this was a step in a carefully crafted plan, or just made business sense to be like this at the time. But Microsoft did lo…

That sounds consistent with their classic embrace-extend-extinguish process [1]. Embracing with no significant user-hostile moves is step 1, and then abusing competitors and users comes as step 3 of the process. They need to briefly look less evil in step 1 to maneuver into position for step 3.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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> Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. They put copilot in notepad. NOTEPAD.

Notepad++ is always a default install on any new Windows PC. Who on earth uses Notepad?

I do, when I have tons of tabs in Nodepad++ and then need some other notes of different priority/context in explicitly another window that looks visually different to Notepad++ :)

Aaaand... thats about it, even Total commander's built in text editor is more powerful.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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post #397

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The irony, is that it suffices Microsoft to turn WSL[0] into a more out of the box experience, running a Windows like desktop environment, to have that as the product most OEMs will actually bother to sell. Similar to Chromebooks, and Android tablets with keyboard, versus having anyone selling any GNU/Linux hardware at PC stores, past the oldie netbooks wave. [0] - https://github.com/microsoft/azurelinux

No. WSL is only half a Linux and even if it weren't, the ballast of the toxic Windoze waste that comes with it makes it unbearable.

I didn't said that WSL would be enough for "Works best with Microsoft Linux" stickers.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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The irony, is that it suffices Microsoft to turn WSL[0] into a more out of the box experience, running a Windows like desktop environment, to have that as the product most OEMs will actually bother to sell. Similar to Chromebooks, and Android tablets with keyboard, versus having anyone selling any GNU/Linux hardware at PC stores, past the oldie netbooks wave. [0] - https://github.com/microsoft/azurelinux

I use WSL because I don't have the option to ditch Windows completely at work. But here's an example of something that doesn't work well with WSL: having a git repository in Ubuntu (WSL) and reading/modifying it from Sublime Merge on Windows. I'm forced to rely on the terminal git commands or on VS Code (because it can use a WSL back-end) and it's not ideal to be forced to a couple of options.

With "Works best with Microsoft Linux" stickers, it wouldn't be WSL 2.0 only.

That we already have today, and really WSL is only good enough for me to not bother having VMWare or Virtual Box, as I have been doing since switching back into Windows (during Windows 7 heyday) as main laptop OS.

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