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Re: Steam Machine

#511

> Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? From your mouth to Tim Cook's ear, friend.

Yeah, imagine if you could install a different operating system on your Mac! What a world that would be!

Worth noting that this is a dig against the other consoles which do not allow this, not Apple who (in part) does.

Re: Steam Machine

#512

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What do you expect to do with the steam machine that will take more than a gigabit? I mean, it's cool when things are faster, but if you can saturate the link, downloads are still bottlenecked by the drives. And even 4k streaming is under 100Mbit normally.

I can download at approximately 2.5 Gbps from Steam on my PC. I think not having a 2.5 gigabit port at least is a poor choice.

So you can theoretically download an AAA title like the new kingdom come at 84GB in just under 5 minutes instead of 11 min. That's cool and all, but does it actually matter? I mean, with games of those sizes you're going to spend hundreds of hours in the game most likely. It's an extremely first world problem that takes minutes, maybe once a month.

Re: Steam Machine

#513
post #21

In 2026 we should be getting Windows on a Xbox console with the Xbox skinned version of windows. This would be a direct competitor to that since most PC gamers have the majority of their game library on steam.

> the Xbox skinned version of windows Isn't that what the ROG Xbox Ally devices have? At least that's what it looked like to me. Something like a SteamOS's gaming mode counterpart for Windows.

From what I could tell, the ROG Xbox device was just Windows desktop mode with a full screen "Xbox" application open, which you can minimise and see the normal desktop behind it.

Re: Steam Machine

#514

I bet they decided to crash their skin market in part because too many people were exploiting the Steam Deck loophole to take the skin money out of the system. Now people will need to give Steam real money to buy their new devices.

Maybe, but I also think it was just a dangerous situation for them to be in for no benefit. Teenangers dumping all their money in to skins because tiktok "investors" told them to, and then trading them on sketchy 3rd party marketplaces both exposes them to risk of regulators cracking down, and doesn't make them much profit.

Re: Steam Machine

#515
post #346

8GB vram in 2026?!

what game needs more?

This is the real answer. Vram is largely dependent on the resolution you're running, and at 1080p 8gb vram is fine. People who want 20GB vram are probably going to build their own machines anyways, the steam machine is meant to be a console replacement to my understanding.

Re: Steam Machine

#516

>Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? In a world of locked bootloaders and ever more locked down device, valve is pushing the envolope with a linux based gaming console.

Reporting indicates one of the use cases they designed for is swapping an SD card between steam deck, steam machine and steam frame to bring your installed games along with you, which is technologically unimpressive, but so far against the grain that it's shocking a company would include that kind of functionality.

Re: Steam Machine

#517

A bit of topic, but I was wondering how much bigger is the steam machine compared to the mac mini m4, since that's what I have and is my frame of reference. Obviously comparing apples to oranges and only talking about physical volume, not features, compatibility, price, personal preferences, etc. Mac Mini m4: 127 x 127 x 50 mm = 0.8 L Steam Machine: 156 x 162 x 152 = 3.8 L That's 4.76 times more volume.

The Mac Mini M4 is crazy small though. This steam box is still really small, even if it is 5x the volume of the Mac Mini M4.

Re: Steam Machine

#518

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I was in the same shoes, then one day I decided to give a shot to Bazzite. To my surprise the installation was extremely smooth, and everything worked right away. Now I’m playing almost everything on it (Arc Raiders, EU V, HLL and Horizon FW recently). If you want to _try_ all you need is 15 minutes, some HDD space and an empty USB. You don’t have to give up Windows at all, dual booting is also pretty smooth.

Loved the concept, tried it out, didn't work, at least not for RDR2 which I was trying to play. But how would it work, there is Linux, Bazzite, then there is Steam, RDR2 needs the Rockstar launcher, it's such an intricate web of dependencies, I'm not surprised something isn't working.

Worked fine for me on a Deck.

Re: Steam Machine

#519

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There are some early previews where people ran some actual games at it[0]. Here are some of their results: > In Cyberpunk 2077, running at 4K, it’s a surprisingly stable 60fps, albeit with the caveat of that using FSR 3 upscaling on Performance mode with Medium quality settings. But, also: basic ray tracing, something the Deck can’t even think about enabling outside of very specific games. > The next game I tested, B…

> In Cyberpunk 2077, running at 4K, it’s a surprisingly stable 60fps, albeit with the caveat of that using FSR 3 upscaling on Performance mode with Medium quality settings So it's not running at 4K nor 60fps. I wish people would stop calling 1080p upscale through some dogshit filter as "4K"...

Not even an RTX5090 can run Cyberpunk at a consistent 4K/60fps without upscaling or frame generation, so it's not a realistic bar.

The AI-upscaled image is technically 4K though, looks pretty sharp with FSR/DLSS, and also significantly better than 1080p or even QHD.

Re: Steam Machine

#520
post #29

Pretty much the only reason I boot to Windows anymore is to play games with my kids and family. The direction of this thing is dangerously close to being all I'd care about from a desktop computer. If Valve pivoted into making a well-supported laptop with good hardware that ran Linux and played games...

I've been using Pop_OS, buggy as hell but steam games work great! Everything is kinda a dumpster fire, but they nailed steam games.

The 24.04 beta is really stable and the new cosmic DE is great! I've got it on my desktop and laptop, no problems.

System76.com/pop/pop-beta

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