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Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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Apple doesn't have an "R&D wing". It's a bad idea to split your company into the cool part and the boring part.

Isn't that why Siri is worse today than it was thirteen years ago?

And apparently that doesn't stop people from buying their products

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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In industry research, someone in a chief position like LeCun should know how to balance long-term research with short-term projects. However, for whatever reason, he consistently shows hostility toward LLMs and engineering projects, even though Llama and PyTorch are two of the most influential projects from Meta AI. His attitude doesn’t really match what is expected from a Chief position at a product company like Fac…

LLM hostility was warrented. The overhype/downright charlartan nature of ai hype and marketing threatens another AI winter. It happened to cybernetics, it'll happen to us too. The finance folks will be fine, they'll move to the next big thing to overhype, it is the researchers who suffer the fall-out. I am considered anti LLM (transformers anyway) for this reason, i like the the architecture, it is cool amd rather ca…

Meta is in last place among the big tech companies making an AI push because of lecun’s llm hostility. Refusing to properly invest in the biggest product breakthrough this century was not even a little bit warranted. He had more than enough resources available to do the research he wanted and create a fantastic open source llm.

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Most of the folks on this topic are focused on Meta and Yann’s departure. But, I’m seeing something different. This is the weirdest technology market that I’ve seen. Researchers are getting rewarded with VC money to try what remains a science experiment. That used to be a bad word and now that gets rewarded with billions of dollars in valuation.

Having raised more than $100M myself, I’m not sure I would call VC money a reward. However, VC money should be allocated in part to massive upside science experiments. PE money is focused on things already figured out.

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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In industry research, someone in a chief position like LeCun should know how to balance long-term research with short-term projects. However, for whatever reason, he consistently shows hostility toward LLMs and engineering projects, even though Llama and PyTorch are two of the most influential projects from Meta AI. His attitude doesn’t really match what is expected from a Chief position at a product company like Fac…

Yann was in charge of FAIR which has nothing to do with llama4 or the product focussed AI orgs. In general your comment is filled with misrepresentations. Sad.

FAIR having shit for products is the whole reason he is being demoted/fired. Yes, he had nothing to do with applied research, that was the problem.

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- Kimi proved we don’t need Nvidia - Deepseek proved we didn’t need OpenAI - the real issue the insane tyranny in the west competing against the entire free world. The models aren’t Chinese they are the entire world, unless I became Chinese without realizing

Is there any proof that Kimi K2 was trained on anything other than Nvidia Chips?

There’s evidence but not proof

Kimi k2 thinking > As for why we chose INT4 instead of more "advanced" formats like MXFP4/NVFP4, it's indeed, as many have mentioned, to better support non-Blackwell architecture hardware.

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That's been true for the last year or two, but it feels like we're at an inflection point. All of the announcements from OpenAI for the last couple of months have been product focused - Instant Checkout, AgentKit, etc. Anthropic seems 100% focused on Claude Code. We're not hearing as much about AGI/Superintelligence (thank goodness) as we were earlier this year, in fact the big labs aren't even talking much about the…

You must not watch broadcast television (e.g American Football). Anthropic is doing a huge ad blitz, trying to get end customers to use their chatbot.

Anthropic, frankly, needs to in ways the other big names don't.

It gets lost on people in techcentric fields because Claude's at the forefront of things we care about, but Anthropic is basically unknown among the wider populace.

Last I'd looked a few months ago, Anthropic's brand awareness was in the middle single digits; OpenAI/ChatGPT was somewhere around 80% for comparison. MS/Copilot and Gemini were somewhere between the two but closer to Open AI than Anthropic.

tl;dr - Anthropic has a lot more to gain from awareness campaigns than the other major model providers do.

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45886217

Thanks! Macroexpanded:

Meta chief AI scientist Yann LeCun plans to exit and launch own startup - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45886217 - Nov 2025 (14 comments)

That thread didn't spend any time on the frontpage so we can treat the current post as non-dupe.

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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Making LeCun report to Wang was the most boneheaded move imaginable. But… I suppose Zuckerberg knows what he wants, which is AI slopware and not truly groundbreaking foundation models.

> not truly groundbreaking foundation models.

Where is any proof that Yann LeCun is able to deliver that? He's had way more resources than any other lab during his tenure, and yet has nothing substantial to show for it.

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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If Claude Code is Anthropic’s main focus why are they not responding to some of the most commented issues on their GitHub? https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/3648 has people begging for feedback and saying they’re moving to OpenAI, has been open since July and there are similar issues with 100+ comments.

Hey, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We try hard to read through every issue, and respond to as many issues as possible. The challenge is we have hundreds of new issues each day, and even after Claude dedupes and triages them, practically we can’t get to all of them immediately. The specific issue you linked is related to the way Ink works, and the way terminals use ANSI escape codes to control rendering. When…

How about giving us the basic UX stuff that all other AI products have? I've been posting this ever since I first tried Claude: Let us:

* Sign in with Apple on the website

* Buy subscriptions from iOS In App Purchases

* Remove our payment info from our account before the inevitable data breach

* Give paying subscribers an easy way to get actual support

As a frequent traveller I'm not sure if some of those features are gated by region, because some people said they can do some of those things, but if that is true, then that still makes the UX worse than the competitors.

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