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Re: Affinity Studio now free

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Fair, but shareware was pay-once, which many people find preferable to a subscription-chained model.

You don’t have to keep paying for a subscription. You can stop at any time and still have access to all the non-AI features.

>You don’t have to keep paying for a subscription. You can stop at any time and still have access to all the non-AI features

And if Canva decides that "I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further,"[0] what will you do then? Go and rent the Adobe subscription suite instead?

[0] http://www.quickmeme.com/img/32/32b4229145de0a2c1171b9b5757f...

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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I am a daily user of Affinity Publisher and regular user of Affinity Photo. I bought version 1 when it came out, upgraded to version 2, and upgraded this morning to the new, free version. This is NOT FREEMIUM as I understand the model, as it is not limited in any way. This is everything they were charging for and more, now free, with free upgrades. I'm personally thrilled to get so much value for free.

Literally on the landing page they have two columns comparing: Affinity vs Affinity + Canva premium plans And the FAQs under it are trying, repetitively, to upsell the Canva AI plans: Are AI features available? Yes. With a Canva premium plan you can unlock Canva AI features in Affinity. Can I access AI tools without a Canva Pro or other premium plan? No, these are only available to those with Canva premium accounts.…

So, unless you want to use AI, which wasn't available in the previous products, you are not missing out on anything?

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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GIMP is open source if you want to go help improve it ;)

I tried ;) GIMP developers aren't very open to external contributions. I don't consider my attempts to be of low quality either, but the bike shedding resulted in them never being accepted. "It's best to wait until X lands" or "I think this will be part of Y". Meanwhile, 10 years later, the functional features I've tried to contribute are still not possible in GIMP ;)

Yeah, I was mostly being facetious haha. I know that GIMP as a project is notoriously difficult to contribute to.

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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post #512

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Literally on the landing page they have two columns comparing: Affinity vs Affinity + Canva premium plans And the FAQs under it are trying, repetitively, to upsell the Canva AI plans: Are AI features available? Yes. With a Canva premium plan you can unlock Canva AI features in Affinity. Can I access AI tools without a Canva Pro or other premium plan? No, these are only available to those with Canva premium accounts.…

So, unless you want to use AI, which wasn't available in the previous products, you are not missing out on anything?

This is what I don’t understand. Why complain about it if the model gives you everything except the cloud service?

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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I own Affinity products and I used to be able to login to Serif's site to download them. Now that download link seems to have gone. I wish I had archived those images. Not sure if they would keep working though.

You still can, or at least I can.

https://store.serif.com/en-us/account/

After login it forwarded me to the new site, but going back has orders, v2 downloads, and stuff.

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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I used Affinity for several years, so to add some background here: Serif is the company that originally built this software. -------- 2014–2024 Serif developed the Affinity suite, a collection of three independent desktop apps sold with a one-time payment model: - Affinity Designer: vector graphic design (Adobe Illustrator equivalent) - Affinity Photo: digital image editing (Adobe Photoshop equivalent) - Affinity Pub…

This is such a shame IMO. The Serif suite was great, and I used to try to get every designer I could to dump adobe and switch to serif. Now that it has switched to a freemium model trying to get you to subscribe to AI, I wont be using this or telling other people about it any more. Their priorities have changed. No longer are they trying to to beat adobe at their own game, they are just chasing AI money like everyone…

Personally I think it's great I both get the app for free and they remove all the AI from it. Couldn't get any better!

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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I used Affinity for several years, so to add some background here: Serif is the company that originally built this software. -------- 2014–2024 Serif developed the Affinity suite, a collection of three independent desktop apps sold with a one-time payment model: - Affinity Designer: vector graphic design (Adobe Illustrator equivalent) - Affinity Photo: digital image editing (Adobe Photoshop equivalent) - Affinity Pub…

They're doing an Adobe Creative Cloud with Canva now, Great !

Without charging for the desktop software.

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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To push back against this sentiment: “chasing AI money” isn’t necessarily their thought process here; i.e. it’s not the only reason they would “switch to a freemium model trying to get you to subscribe to AI.” Keeping in mind that: 1. “AI” (i.e. large ML model) -driven features are in demand (if not by existing users, then by not-yet-users, serving as a TAM-expansion strategy) 2. Large ML models require a lot of reso…

> 1. “AI” (i.e. large ML model) -driven features are in demand No, there’re not. People with influence or who have invested in the space say that these features are in demand/the next big thing. In reality, I haven’t seen a single user interview where the person actively wanted or was even excited about AI.

I didn't make any assertion about AI, only about "AI" (note the quotes in my GP comment) — i.e. the same old machine-learning-based features like super-resolution upscaling, patch-match, etc, that people have been adding to image-editing software for more than a decade now, but which now get branded as "AI" because people recognize them by this highly-saturated marketing term.

Few artists want generative-AI diffusion models in their paint program; but most artists appreciate "classical" ML-based tools and effects — many of which they might not even think of as being ML-based. Because, until recently, "classical ML" tools and effects have been things run client-side on the system, and so necessarily small and lightweight, only being shipped if they'll work on the lowest-common-denominator GPU (esp. "amount of VRAM") that artists might be using.

The interesting thing is that, due to the genAI craze, GPU training and inference clusters have been highly commoditized / brought into reach for the developers of these "classical ML" models. You don't need to invest in your own hyperscale on-prem GPU cluster to train models bigger than fit on a gaming PC any more. And this has led to increased interest in, and development of, larger "classical ML" models, because now they're not so tightly-bounded by running client-side on lowest-common-denominator hardware. They can instead throw (time on) a cloud GPU cluster to train their model; and then expect the downstream consumer of that model (= a company like Canva) to solve the problem of running the resulting model not by pushing back for something size-optimized to be run locally on user machines, but rather by standing up an model-inference-API backend running it on the same kind of GPU IaaS infra that was used to train it.

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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That being said, my line of argument here would be a bit more compelling if Canva were still charging for the app. The fact that the apps are now free , suggests that they expect the subscriptions to pay not just for the backend-cluster OpEx, but also for all the developers’ salaries and so forth. --- Honestly, I think Canva here are copying Adobe's playbook, but with a more honest approach than Adobe ever had; one r…

Pricing in most businesses has little relation to the cost of developing and making the product. Most businesses price relative to the value that their product delivers to the customer. If there is robust competition, then the price is often driven down towards the cost, but it's not driven by the cost. In Adobe's case, they see that there is an entire industry of creative people using their products as their primary…

The price ceiling has little relation to cost, sure. But COGS sets an effective price floor — you'll be revenue-negative unless you do the math to ensure you're charging customers (especially your largest customers) at least COGS. COGS is the most critical number your enterprise salespeople will ask you for in order to backstop their negotiations.

For some companies, COGS and customer LTV are numbers with such different orders of magnitude that they don't even have to think about the COGS side.

But "software you charge a one-time fee for" generally produces a very low customer LTV; and "renting compute on someone else's GPU IaaS" generally produces a very high (customer-lifetime-integrated) COGS; so if they were sticking to the "just charge for the software" model, "COGS rising faster than CLTV" would be a direct threat to their business model. Which is... why they don't want to do that.

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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They claim not to, but I am extremely suspicious. >No, your content in Affinity is not used to train AI-powered features, or to help AI features learn and improve in other ways, such as model evaluation or quality assurance. In Affinity, your content is stored locally on your device and we don’t have access to it. If you choose to upload or export content to Canva, you remain in control of whether it can be used to t…

I mean, be suspicious, that’s always good. But have proof before being certain of something you don’t have facts to back up.

That’s what suspicion means.
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