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I almost got hacked by a 'job interview'

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Re: I almost got hacked by a 'job interview'

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Post by chipsrafferty »

andai wrote: post #261
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #233

This article is so interesting, but I can’t shake the feeling it was written by AI. The writing style has that feel for me. Maybe that shouldn’t bother me? Like, maybe the author would never have had time to write this otherwise, and I would never have learned about his experience. But I can't help wishing he'd just written about it himself. Maybe that's unreasonable--I shouldn't expect people to do extra work for fr…

I think it only really has that feel if you use GPT. I mean, all AIs produce output that sounds kinda like it was written by an AI. But I think GPT is the most notorious on that front. It's like ten times worse. So really the feeling I get when I run into "obviously AI" writing isn't even, "I wish they had written this manually", but "dang, they couldn't even be bothered to use Claude!" (I think the actual solution i…

They all sound the same

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Post by chipsrafferty »

mat_b wrote: post #429
anonymars wrote: post #372

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I find all the whining about the AI help to be far more annoying and distracting than the AI itself

Agree. People need to chill out. I thought there might be some discussion in the comments about the scam. Unfortunately, no. Complete waste of time to read and much more annoying than the original article.

Easy to fix - don't publish AI Slop, and we can have an interesting discussion

Re: I almost got hacked by a 'job interview'

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Post by chipsrafferty »

bluGill wrote: post #245
cortesoft wrote: post #165

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> Your residence history and your presences on the distributed Internet is the HARDEST to fake. Only if you don’t plan ahead. I can’t remember which book/movie/show it was from, but there was a character who spent decades building identities by registering for credit cards, signing up for services, signing leases, posting to social media, etc so that they could sell them in the future. Seems like it would be trivial…

That is a "valid" scam idea. However it is tricky to pull off. If anyone you sell the account to is investigated they may find you and can possibly get you on fraud even before they cannot arrest your customer. You also need to sell all these accounts - investigators look for and hang out in the places where such services are sold just so they can buy from you first and then shut you down (they don't know of all such…

But this is happening all the time. These accounts are sold anonymously and from countries where it is hard to find the culprit and harder to prosecute. It's the primary reason WHY companies like eBay, Amazon, and Google DON'T care about your account age or activity.

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Post by chipsrafferty »

palmotea wrote: post #39
zamadatix wrote: post #17

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It looks like the LinkedIn account and site are really the same person to me, just keep in mind it's not uncommon for Indian IT workers to adopt an anglicized name in this kind of context.

> It looks like the LinkedIn account and site are really the same person to me, just keep in mind it's not uncommon for Indian IT workers to adopt an anglicized name in this kind of context. I've never encountered an Indian IT worker who does that, but I'd say a majority of Chinese IT workers go by an English name.

A significant amount of my coworkers from India use a shortened form of their name, though.

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Post by munksbeer »

chipsrafferty wrote: post #507
munksbeer wrote: post #479

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"instead of the slop that came out." This "slop" reads perfectly fine to me, and obviously a lot of others, except those who have now been conditioned to watch out for it and react negatively about it. Think about it, why react negatively? The text reads fine. It is clear, even with my usual lack of attention I found it engaging, and read to the end. In fact, it doesn't engage in the usual hubris style prose that a l…

1. It's bad prose. If you think it reads fine, you don't read good prose. 2. It's immediately recognized as AI Slop which makes people question its veracity, or intent 3. If the author can't take the time and effort to create a well-crafhed article, it's insulting to ask us to take the time and effort to read it. 4. Allowing this style of writing to become accepted and commonplace leads to a death of variety of style…

I genuinely think you're wrong and you're only seeing things this way because you have formed a dislike about AI. The prose was absolutely fine - and this sort of comment

> If you think it reads fine, you don't read good prose.

Is reductive and not in good spirit.

Good day.

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Post by jibal »

chipsrafferty wrote: post #512
mat_b wrote: post #429

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Agree. People need to chill out. I thought there might be some discussion in the comments about the scam. Unfortunately, no. Complete waste of time to read and much more annoying than the original article.

Easy to fix - don't publish AI Slop, and we can have an interesting discussion

Intelligent and intellectually honest people can have an interesting discussion about articles that the author used LLM to clean up.

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Post by foldr »

rjsw wrote: post #167
ljm wrote: post #135

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Same in the UK (which is currenty a contentious issue again with Digital ID), because there is no concept of having a cryptographic signature tied to your identity in the way it is done in other EU countries. Instead you need: - five years of address history - a recent utility bill or a council tax bill that has your full address - maybe a bank statement - passport or driving license It just so happens that Experian,…

Council Tax bills may be possible to fake. I received a paper one yesterday for an unknown name, someone had registered online that they were moving to my address which cancelled my own account, I guess they could have asked for a copy of the bill to be emailed to them.

I’d imagine that all of this stuff is extremely easy to fake if you’re willing to take a small risk of getting in a lot of trouble. Nobody is really “verifying” council tax bills or utility bills because there is no procedure for doing so.

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Post by anonymars »

chipsrafferty wrote: post #512
mat_b wrote: post #429

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Agree. People need to chill out. I thought there might be some discussion in the comments about the scam. Unfortunately, no. Complete waste of time to read and much more annoying than the original article.

Easy to fix - don't publish AI Slop, and we can have an interesting discussion

There's a difference between "AI slop" and AI copyediting

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Post by throw5f3e675 »

chipsrafferty wrote: post #507
munksbeer wrote: post #479

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"instead of the slop that came out." This "slop" reads perfectly fine to me, and obviously a lot of others, except those who have now been conditioned to watch out for it and react negatively about it. Think about it, why react negatively? The text reads fine. It is clear, even with my usual lack of attention I found it engaging, and read to the end. In fact, it doesn't engage in the usual hubris style prose that a l…

1. It's bad prose. If you think it reads fine, you don't read good prose. 2. It's immediately recognized as AI Slop which makes people question its veracity, or intent 3. If the author can't take the time and effort to create a well-crafhed article, it's insulting to ask us to take the time and effort to read it. 4. Allowing this style of writing to become accepted and commonplace leads to a death of variety of style…

I wonder if the difference of opinion is due to native English speakers versus those who learned as a second language?

I found the AI version to be really clear and it helped me understand everything that was going on.

I found the Google doc version harder to read and slightly difficult to understand.

Re: I almost got hacked by a 'job interview'

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Post by mapt »

Terr_ wrote: post #309
mapt wrote: post #289

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Some of the bureaucratic battles that a functional government would be fighting right now include establishing manual identity management as an essential state function, NSA red teams to enable defensive improvements to widely used software and networks, widespread antitrust action if not progressive corporate taxes to limit the extent of a single vulnerability, postal banking, automatic tax filing, and a whole host…

> identity management as an essential state function I dimly remember some sci-fi book, the kind where everything was Very Crypto-Quantum, and a character was reminiscing about how human spacefaring civilization kinda-collapsed, since the prior regime had been providing irreplaceable functions of authoritative (1) Identity and (2) Timekeeping. Anyway, yes, basic identity management is an essential state function nowa…

The current standard is "Whoever receives calls to my cell phone number is effectively me". The designee of all account recovery actions.

The terrifying thing about this is that phones are almost trivially SIM cloned, surveilled, and impersonated, when they're not just owned with malware.

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