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Nvidia buys $5B in Intel

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Re: Nvidia buys $5B in Intel

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Post by mrheosuper »

tracker1 wrote: post #406
xp84 wrote: post #390

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As an Apple user (and even an Apple investor), I'd rather that Apple went out of business back then. If we could re-roll the invention of the (mainstream) smartphone, maybe we'd get something other than two monopolistic companies controlling everything. For instance, maybe if there were 4 strong vendors making the devices with diverse operating systems, native apps wouldn't have ever become important, and the Web pla…

Or... we could still be using blackberry-like devices without much in the way of active/touch interface development at all. Or worse, the Windows CE or Palm with the pen things.

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Re: Nvidia buys $5B in Intel

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Post by mrheosuper »

scrlk wrote: post #36

> For personal computing, Intel will build and offer to the market x86 system-on-chips (SOCs) that integrate NVIDIA RTX GPU chiplets. These new x86 RTX SOCs will power a wide range of PCs that demand integration of world-class CPUs and GPUs. https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1750/... What’s old is new again: back in 2017, Intel tried something similar with AMD (Kaby Lake-G). They paired a Kaby La…

>They paired a Kaby Lake CPU with a Vega GPU and HBM, but the product flopped.

Not sure if it's flopped, because the only machine with that CPU i could find is the intel nuc.

Re: Nvidia buys $5B in Intel

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Post by mrheosuper »

phkahler wrote: post #121
scrlk wrote: post #36

> For personal computing, Intel will build and offer to the market x86 system-on-chips (SOCs) that integrate NVIDIA RTX GPU chiplets. These new x86 RTX SOCs will power a wide range of PCs that demand integration of world-class CPUs and GPUs. https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1750/... What’s old is new again: back in 2017, Intel tried something similar with AMD (Kaby Lake-G). They paired a Kaby La…

I don't think this is Intel trying to save itself, it's nVidia. Intel GPUs have been in 3rd place for a long time, but their integrated graphics are widely available and come in 2nd place because nVidia can't compete in the x86 space. Intel graphics have been closing the gap with AMD and are now within what? A factor of 2 or less (1.5?) IMHO we will soon see more small/quiet PCs without a slot for a graphics card, re…

> Intel graphics have been closing the gap with AMD and are now within what? A factor of 2 or less (1.5?)

Apart from that APU(395+) from AMD, intel iGPU is on par with AMD right now.

The 395+ is more like dGPU and CPU on same die.

Re: Nvidia buys $5B in Intel

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Post by auggierose »

jerf wrote: post #362
bee_rider wrote: post #319

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The US government isn’t (or at least shouldn’t be) profit-motivated anyway, so it isn’t obvious what their incentives are WRT Intel’s stock.

They want a source of chips for the wars they want to conduct that is not either controlled by the party they want to go war with, or way way closer to the party they want to go to war with than they are. Buying a chunk of Intel is a way of making sure they do the things the government wants that will lead to that outcome. Or at least so the theory goes; I've got my own cynicism on this matter and wouldn't dream of t…

I find it funny that people talk about a US/China war as a real possibility. You are aware that that would be the end of life on earth as we know it, right?

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Post by lyu07282 »

I for one am happy that our capitalist overlords have finally shredded the last remnants of the pretense, but it probably causes a lot of issues for economists who have to explain why this is all fine and definitely normal.

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Post by re-thc »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #479
arkmm wrote: post #448

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This misses the forest from the trees IMO: - The datacenter GPU market is 10x larger than the consumer GPU market for Nvidia (and it's still growing). Winning an extra few percentage points in consumer is not a priority anymore. - Nvidia doesn't have a CPU offering for the datacenter market and they were blocked from acquiring ARM. It's in their interest to have a friend on the CPU side. - Nvidia is fabless and has c…

> Nvidia is fabless and has concentrated supplier and geopolitical risk with TSMC. Intel is one of the only other leading fabs onshor[e] TSMC is building state of the art fabs in Arizona, USA. Samsung in Texas, USA. I assume these are being done to reduce geopolitical risk on all sides. Something that I never read about: Why can't NVidia use Samsung fabs? They are very close to TSMC state of the art.

> They are very close to TSMC state of the art.

They're not. Most have tried at 1 point. Apple had a release with TSMC + Samsung and users spotted a difference. There was quite a bit of negativity.

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Post by [deleted] »

fluoridation wrote: post #408
kmacdough wrote: post #395

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Calling BS on "gaming not part of the equation". Several of my friends and I have exclusively games on integrated graphics. Sure we don't play the most abusively unoptimized AAA games like RDR2. But we're here and we're gaming.

"Gaming" = "real-time-graphics-intensive application". You could be playing chess online, or emulated SNES games, but that's not what "gaming" refers to in a hardware context.

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Post by qwerpy »

dabluecaboose wrote: post #510
hexator wrote: post #472

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He didn't say anything violent and you are spreading misinformation saying he is. That is why your comment got removed. You can watch the monologue here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j3YdxNSzTk&t=122s

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> redditization of Hackernews

This has been very sad to see this past year.

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Post by slater »

qwerpy wrote: post #519
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> redditization of Hackernews This has been very sad to see this past year.

Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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