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Post by Gareth321 »

twalichiewicz wrote: post #417
llmthrow0827 wrote: post #113

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All the VR/AR/XR demos are so insanely trivial and yet still manage to be much more difficult than current methods of doing things. Like, really, cooking? Normal method: * Search for a recipe * Leave my phone on a stand and glance at it if I forget a step Meta glasses: * Put glasses on (there's a reason I got lasek, it's because wearing glasses sucks) * Talk into the void, trying to figure out how to describe my prob…

Watching the announcement, every feature felt like something my phone already does—better. With glasses, you have to aim your head at whatever you want the AI to see. With a phone, you just point the camera while your hands stay free. Even in Meta’s demo, the presenter had to look back down at the counter because the AI couldn’t see the ingredients. It feels like the same dead end we saw with Rabbit and the Humane pi…

If executed well I think this could reduce a lot of friction in the process. I can definitely unlock my phone and hold it with one hand while I prepare and cook, but that's annoying. If my glasses could monitor progress and tell me what to do with what while I'm doing it, that's far more convenient. It's clearly not there yet, but in a few years I have no doubt it will be. And this is just the start. With the screens they'll be able to offer AR. Imagine working on electronics or a car and the instructions are overlaid on the screen while the AI is providing verbal instructions.

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Post by wkat4242 »

SonOfKyuss wrote: post #275
ghaff wrote: post #253

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> And surely workplaces will ban these? For all but the most security-conscious companies, that ship has probably sailed. Bringing a camera into many companies used to be an exercise involving forms, approvals, and so forth. Now everyone has camera, video, and audio recording in their pocket.

To those around you, there is a big difference between having a video recording device in your pocket compared to on your head. I would personally feel pretty uncomfortable if someone pulled up to the next stall in the workplace bathroom with these on

Yes huge difference. If someone at work was pointing their phone camera at me especially while we're having a discussion I would object also.

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Post by wkat4242 »

Jyaif wrote: post #344
vunderba wrote: post #307

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> It seems like there are a lot of negative comments about Meta's glasses which is surprising to me as a regular user. Really? Does nobody remember the "Glasshole" debacle with another equally large FAANG corporation who tried to push a similar technology? There were incidents of people getting physically assaulted JUST for wearing the things.

In 10 years the mentality evolves. It used to be considered extremely rude to pull out your phone during a conversation, now all the under 20 do it.

20 years ago the world wasn't so tense and deeply polarised as it is now either. I think many people would object more now, not less.

Google glass isn't that old though. It started in 2012 with selected testing users and in 2014 it became possible to just buy one.

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Post by fruitworks »

bigyabai wrote: post #380
anal_reactor wrote: post #335

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Lots of people, actually. This website is an echo chamber of those privacy-conscious.

HN is typically slow to admit it, but Facebook and TikTok wouldn't be popular if you were wrong. Consumers don't care.

Google glass

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Post by Nevermark »

numpad0 wrote: post #442
thot_experiment wrote: post #75

Just in case someone is working on this type of thing. I will easily pay $1000 for an open source glasses thingy that has a monochrome laser display projecting directly onto my retina. IIRC Bosch and Intel have tried this before and the prototypes never went anywhere so there's probably a really good hardware reason why it's not happening but I want that more than any other hardware, it doesn't even have to be both e…

Meta's probably losing tons of cash on this one at $799. Realistic retail price for what they're shipping is likely couple times over that. No way they're even fully covering the hardware cost with this price.

You think its more expensive that Apple Vision Pro? [0]

Estimates for that are around $1500.

[0] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/02/apple-vision-pros-co...

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by maxwellito »

SchemaLoad wrote: post #116

>Meta Ray-Ban Display glasses are designed to help you look up and stay present. With a quick glance at the in-lens display, you can accomplish everyday tasks—like checking messages, previewing photos, and collaborating with visual Meta AI prompts Can you imagine trying to talk to someone face to face, but they are giving you a blank stare as random notifications and tiktok videos are being beamed inbetween their eye…

> Meta seems like one of the few large tech companies where if the whole company vanished, the world would be purely a better place.

+1 ...and I think about it everyday

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Post by perihelions »

heavyset_go wrote: post #375
ryandrake wrote: post #333

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I'm never going to update a photo government ID to some company just to use an app. What kind of a bonkers world are we living in? Totally ridiculous. No app is worth this.

Some sites outsource their ID verification to platforms that want live videos of different angles of your face, along with pictures of your ID. Literally all the data they could possibly need to build 3D models of your face for even better facial recognition, along with plenty of data to train models on. When that data eventually leaks, it will be interesting. It's insane that anyone puts up with it.

> "that want live videos of different angles of your face"

Hetzner (outsourcing to Idenfy) dared to demand this of me, three years ago. I'm still mad about it.

> "When that data eventually leaks,"

Indeed, my understanding is these sensitive biometrics are generically (i) uploaded in full to a remote server, where they're (ii) retained for a nontrivial amount of time, because they need to be (iii) manually QA'd by humans. It's nothing like an iPhone's local-only biometrics enclave. My understanding's based on the specific case of Idenfy, and an ex-Idenfy HN'er explaining its workflow[0].

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33863625#33864440

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Post by pjmlp »

gorgoiler wrote: post #421
SchemaLoad wrote: post #116

>Meta Ray-Ban Display glasses are designed to help you look up and stay present. With a quick glance at the in-lens display, you can accomplish everyday tasks—like checking messages, previewing photos, and collaborating with visual Meta AI prompts Can you imagine trying to talk to someone face to face, but they are giving you a blank stare as random notifications and tiktok videos are being beamed inbetween their eye…

In my culture it’s considered extremely casual — and therefore quite rude in social situations other than the most private and familiar — to talk with someone while wearing sunglasses. I can imagine the same thing would apply to AR devices too. What you describe sounds like it could be a real problem, but one I’d blame on rudeness rather than Meta. We already live in a world where people order coffee while reading E!…

That is indeed pretty much culture dependent, in Southern Europe sunglasses only go out during Winter, when indoors or when bumping into a friend.
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