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I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Post by reaperducer »

Melatonic wrote: post #484
reaperducer wrote: post #402

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Most of the time when someone on HN complains about Finder, it's not a Finder problem. It's that the user doesn't know how to do what they want, and other people respond with the answer. Finder has its problems. But the overarching problem is that Apple has done a poor job of discoverability and letting people know how to do things. It's counterintuitive, because in most of Apple's macOS programs there are multiple w…

I think the problem is that Finder searches too much stuff by default. The same problem is true of modern windows search, iOS search, and Android. First thing I do on all of them is have it only search local stuff. If I want to do a damn web search I'll open my browser of choice and use Kagi. On iOS I restrict it even further to only show local apps and settings. Massively improves the speed, latency, etc etc.

You're describing Spotlight. Finder is the file manager.

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Post by freedomben »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #274
opan wrote: post #246

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I've used my past several Android phones without signing into a Google account or using gapps. I pick something with LineageOS support (usually OnePlus stuff) and get it from eBay, update to latest stock firmware (gets newer baseband and such) then flash LineageOS over it and get my apps from F-Droid.

These, “just change the firmware” comments are silly. I should get basic phone functionality from my phone out of the box with exactly ZERO effort. I can use an iPhone without an Apple account. I cannot use an Android phone without a Google account unless they changed that in the last few years.

You absolutely can use Android without a Google account. I have a device like that currently. You won't get the play store and some other features, but I believe that is also true of Apple (at least was of it isn't any more)

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Post by freedomben »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #481
Aurornis wrote: post #404

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Don’t forget the waves of rage when Apple removed the CD-ROM drive from laptops. Or when USB Type A ports disappeared in favor of USB-C ports. Or when the iPhone dropped the headphone jack. People still seethe about this decision even though Apple sells an excellent DAC for $9.99 that rates extremely well when tested by the audiophile obsessives and is easy to leave permanently attached to your headphones. There are…

> People still seethe about this decision even though Apple sells an excellent DAC for $9.99 Gee, I wonder why people are still mad that a change obviously intended to milk the users due money means they have to pay more money. Must be just because they hate change.

Maybe that's why. Personally I think it was multi faceted. More hardware sales, thinner and more waterproof device (allegedly, I don't know), and getting rid of a pesky universal and simple standard for something they can make work way better with their walled garden offerings than this parties can. This gives them way more control. Wins all around

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Post by nottorp »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #500
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #476

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No, even then it still isn't. A device should not protect you from making bad decisions. It should be an aid in making good choices, not a nanny keeping you safe because you can't be trusted to do better.

So, turn off your firewall if you don't want to be protected.

Do modern OSes have services listening on external IPs without explicitly told to still?

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Post by skeletal88 »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #251
flohofwoe wrote: post #211

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> The Finder made all the same mistakes as Windows did. Tbf, the Finder is still crap (if only it would be nearly as good as Windows Explorer was in its heyday I would probably use it more), and the UNIX terminal is pretty much needed to make a Mac usable in the first place - which is fine though, because the UNIX-ness was exactly why I switched to Mac ;)

> Tbf, the Finder is still crap (if only it would be nearly as good as Windows Explorer was in its heyday I would probably use it more) I have the exact opposite opinion. I loathe Windows Explorer, and relatively simply stuff like presenting a tree view is apparently some weird magic trick that only Apple has figured out how to do. Browsing SMB shares (or any other networked storage) is one shortcut away (cmd+k), and…

Finder isnt crap?

Why can't i paste a path and just go to it like I can in Windows or KDE, why can't I cut and paste files? Why do i have to open 2 separate windows and drag the files between them?

Who decided that it is somehow useful to leave an applocation running when you close its window?

There are so many silly and stupid small things wrong with os x

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Post by barnabee »

freetime2 wrote: post #76

Regarding the iPhone 17 Pro: > People who have no use for all these pro video recording features shouldn’t waste their money on it. Unless they want a big chunky iPhone with the best camera array and/or have money to burn. I feel like people who “want the best camera array and have money to burn” probably describes a significant percentage of HN readers. I’m honestly pretty excited that they’ve finally put the larger…

I should be firmly in this market. Indeed, I was about to order a 17 Pro just for the camera upgrade (coming from a 15 Pro).

Then I installed iOS 26.

I think I hate it. It might be the last straw.

I’m seriously considering taking the plunge and switching from iOS, which I’ve used since the iPhone 3G, to GrapheneOS on a Pixel 9 Pro.

It’s not just iOS (which is all three of worse, buggier, and slower) but also the direction of travel for Apple as a whole.

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Post by pastureofplenty »

bigglywiggler wrote: post #121
dcchambers wrote: post #44

> What really got on my nerves during the Apple Watch segment of the event, though, is this: Apple always, always inserts a montage of sob stories about how the Apple Watch has saved lives, and what an indispensable life-saving device it is. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad those lives were saved. But this kind of ‘showcase’ every year is made in such poor taste. It’s clear to me that it’s all marketing above everything…

Sure, but how many other products have a feature like that? I live in a very remote area. I NEED Starlink because it's my only choice for internet. I NEED a big 4x4 because if there's some particularly bad rain I'd be trapped in my home. If a tree falls in the nearby forest and nobody is there to hear it our power still goes out because it fell on a powerline and we NEED solar panels with battery backup or we can't f…

Sounds like you'd be better off living in a less remote area.

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Post by paxys »

> The more Apple talks and moves like other big tech companies [...]

My brother Apple is a $3.5 trillion dollar company, and has been in this league for multiple decades now. I don't know why so many communities of people online have convinced themselves to buy into them like they are a scrappy group of hackers/tinkerers fighting "the man" or even some religious movement.

Apple's target audience is rich people buying the latest iPhones and Macs every year.

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Post by tcmart14 »

snowwrestler wrote: post #89

> it’s a company that I feel has lost its alignment with me and other long-time Apple users and customers. When OS X debuted there was a daytime radio talk show in my area called “The Computer Guys.” They capably covered all sorts of computing topics, but were clearly long-time Apple dudes. And they spent weeks complaining about what a disaster OS X was. The Dock was useless and violated Apple’s HIG. The Finder made…

I agree. Both companies and people change. Companies and their customers will grow together and apart. Markets change, etc. And people should accept that is fine. While there is a group that thought OS X was a disaster, there is a group of people that say OS X Snow Leopard was peak OS development. And here in 10 years, there will be a group of people saying MacOS Tahoe was peak OS development. Those groups may have an intersection people, or not.
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