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Re: U.S. added 911k fewer jobs in year through March than reported earlier

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Post by fluorinerocket » Fri, Sep 12, 2025, 3:37 AM UTC

lokar wrote: post #37

deepGem wrote: post #26

What I really fail to understand - how can departments like BLS screw up to this extent. Either they are grossly incompetent or they are intentionally corrupt. The data covers the period from March 2024 to March 2025 and trims the average monthly jobs gains seen during this period (roughly the last 10 months of Joe Biden's presidency and the first two months of Trump's) from a monthly average of 147,000 to about 71,0…

It’s a survey, there are a lot of non-responses (getting worse) and late responses. They try to correct for this, and that normally works, but when “weird” things are going on the corrections can be pretty wrong. The people who use these numbers understand all of this and it’s fine. It’s just the popular media that freaks out. The quarterly numbers come from better data sources (tax withholding, unemployment insuranc…

Let me guess, they are calling landlines. And no one picks up unknown numbers on cell phones. They are hopelessly behind the times

Re: U.S. added 911k fewer jobs in year through March than reported earlier

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Post by peterfirefly » Fri, Sep 12, 2025, 10:03 AM UTC

dgfitz wrote: post #398

peterfirefly wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The US does not elect a monarch. It is a constitutional monarchy with an elected, time-limited king. Monarchies generally have (and had) lots of checks on the king's power. Not necessarily the kinds of checks we would like, of course. The rights of the nobility were well-protected, the rights of landless commoners were not.

Somehow you’re wrong somewhere between two and 3 times in one sentence. > It is a constitutional monarchy with an elected, time-limited king. > Constitutional monarchy, also known as limited monarchy, parliamentary monarchy or democratic monarchy, is a form of monarchy in which the monarch exercises their authority in accordance with a constitution and is not alone in making decisions.[1][2][3] Constitutional monarch…

> but does not exercise executive or policy-making power

This is largely but not entirely true. It's also largely true by convention/Realpolitik ("try and exercise your powers and see how long you stay king!") and not by law.

> absolute monarchies (in which a monarch is the only decision-maker)

The monarch was essentially never the only decision maker in absolute monarchies. Nominally, yes. In practice, not at all. Going against too many established interested was seriously bad for the monarch's health.

Re: U.S. added 911k fewer jobs in year through March than reported earlier

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Post by lokar » Fri, Sep 12, 2025, 3:12 PM UTC

fluorinerocket wrote: post #511

lokar wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a survey, there are a lot of non-responses (getting worse) and late responses. They try to correct for this, and that normally works, but when “weird” things are going on the corrections can be pretty wrong. The people who use these numbers understand all of this and it’s fine. It’s just the popular media that freaks out. The quarterly numbers come from better data sources (tax withholding, unemployment insuranc…

Let me guess, they are calling landlines. And no one picks up unknown numbers on cell phones. They are hopelessly behind the times

It’s a survey of business, so they have a list, I think the businesses are enrolled to take part. It’s not a random phone survey. I bet it’s email.

Re: U.S. added 911k fewer jobs in year through March than reported earlier

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Post by simianparrot » Sun, Sep 14, 2025, 9:49 AM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #271

simianparrot wrote: post #261

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Some people can’t comprehend that the graph can’t go up infinitely

It can, if one's definition of "infinity" is "during my lifetime". That's how we get Boomers going on rampant climate change denialism.

Most boomers I know don’t deny the climate is changing — they can (quite literally) feel it in their bones.

What they’re less convinced about is what to do about it. I agree with those who say we need to do practical preparation for the inevitable consequences rather than try to turn back the clock in a fit of fear and futility.

Norway can exit oil today and return its entire population to pre-WW2 poverty and last time I checked the effect on the world’s climate would be a .1% reduction in Co2 emissions, rounded up.

Meanwhile nobody, and least not a western country, is going to tell India and China to reverse course back into the obscurity of underdevelopment.

So any sane conclusion is that oil will eventually run out, so let’s use it as efficiently as possible to prepare for the inevitable change in climate we’re already seeing, regardless of its cause because it’s an unstoppable object.