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Re: Atlassian is acquiring The Browser Company

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Post by taminka »

jshier wrote: post #380
taminka wrote: post #264

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> having managed to get their swift-centric development working on _Windows_. That's a huge and difficult undertaking! im not a swift expert, but building your project for one of the officially supported targets shouldn't be considered a "phenomenal" achievent? lol

Considering TBC hired the one guy doing anything with Swift on Windows and paid for much of the work needed to make Windows an officially supported platform, it was still an achievement. I'm not even sure I'd call Windows officially supported since most of the support comes from TBC and not Apple or official Swift channels.

sounds like they made a stupid decision and had to pay for it w/ technical overhead?

chrome already has ui rendering set up on windows, all they had to was not reinvent the wheel and just make tweaks to the ui and some server side magick on their end, but that would reveal the fact that they're an half a billion dollar 100 person chrome fork for nerds with no way to generate profit lol

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Post by indemnity »

tombert wrote: post #499
rglynn wrote: post #459

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Out of interest, what issues did you have with Linear?

I don’t think I’ve used Linear, I hadn’t heard of it until just now.

I switched to it for projects in my consulting side gigs, and it’s quite low friction, but I don’t see it gaining the same traction in enterprise as JIRA until they add the ability for big companies to completely fuck up and over-complicate issue workflows and add 100+ custom fields and turn Linear into the system that gates velocity.

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Post by indemnity »

blackqueeriroh wrote: post #463
makeitdouble wrote: post #394

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Did any Atlassian product ever make JIRA less annoying ? My impression was JiRA is the planet and everything else are satellites turning around. They come and go but never touch JIRA.

yeah, lots of them. Every day. All the time. But you’d have to learn to understand that most of the problem you have with Jira has nothing to do with the tool and everything to do with how it’s been implemented.

Somehow all the implementations are equally lacklustre though? What is the common denominator.

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Post by jimmydoe »

s__s wrote: post #410
Reagan_Ridley wrote: post #172

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I think the one you replied to was referring the fact that Arc can have multiple windows (terminal) "attach" to same tab (tmux session), that has nothing to do with profile.

Zen can do that too. Check out: https://docs.zen-browser.app/user-manual/split-view

I use Zen extensively, no that's not the same thing.

In Zen, if you open two windows, they have different set of tab instances; in Arc, you have same set of tab instances.

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Post by pzshaikh »

buddhu wrote: post #331
jhaile wrote: post #299

I still use Arc as my primary browser. I prefer tabs on the side - I like how you can just drag tabs up and they will be saved (like Bookmarks, but I actually use it) I like pinned tabs which I use for calendar and my other top used "web apps" It also has good support for profiles and spaces. For example, I have a "Work" space, a "Demo" space (with tabs open for sales demos), a "Personal" space, and even a "Travel" s…

For what it's worth, and from what you've described (I haven't used Arc myself), most of those features are also available in Firefox with the Sidebery extension. Instead of "spaces" it has "tab panels", with a horizontal row of icons above your tabs that lets you switch to different panels of vertical tabs. You can pin tabs in a panel, you can setup URL patterns to automatically move tabs to the right panel, and it…

Yes, most of these features are available in Brave. You have Vertical tabs, split view, pinned tabs, grouped tabs, tab sneak previews, tab search, in built AI assistant. Instead of 'spaces' you have old fashioned profiles, single windowed space switcher would be nice to have in Brave. Arc also has a nice Tidy tabs feature.

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Post by quectophoton »

bsder wrote: post #416
crowcroft wrote: post #363

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On the other hand, it's kind of crazy no one can make an OS except Windows, Apple and Google? Trillion dollar market and no one can compete.

Building an OS is easy and straightforward. Now let's make that OS talk to a graphics card--whoops, no Nvidia for you, peon! An OS isn't a problem. Hardware support on an OS--that's a huge problem.

Take for example FreeBSD, it's not mainstream but also not too obscure, they get some funding through the FreeBSD foundation, and yet wifi drivers are still an issue.

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Post by enos_feedler »

jemmyw wrote: post #364
mattlutze wrote: post #359

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One might suggest Cromebooks have done so well because Google got it more or less right.

I think Chromebooks have done so well because they're cheap and are purchased for locked down environments (education and people who really don't want complexity). Even then, I think they kind of demonstrate that the browser is NOT the OS because users and Google still felt the need to break out of the browser box, with both Android apps and Linux application support.

The browser is the OS that wraps the user not the machine. Just as Linux or Windows or Android wrap the machine and manage its resources, the browser should wrap the user and manage their resources (data, time/focus etc). In this regard nobody has succeeded. The browser isn’t finished until it achieves this

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Post by amykhar »

knr2345 wrote: post #438
amykhar wrote: post #129

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I also hated that they were trying to make it a free tool, which would mean selling user data to make money, and would require growth at all costs. These days, I'm trying to migrate to paid tools. I would much rather work with a slower growing company that has a real business model other than grow and sell out.

I share your sentiment but still can’t imagine adding a browser-specific AI subscription alongside my current GPT or Claude sub.

I don't really need AI in my browser. I do like spaces in Arc, and how it handles cleaning up my tabs. The color coding of the sidebar for the various profiles is the one feature I haven't been able to find in things like Orion, Vivaldi, Firefox, etc. By color coding, I mean the ability to make the entire sidebar a different color, which helps me make certain I don't do stupid things in prod.

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Post by niutech »

al_borland wrote: post #399
crowcroft wrote: post #173

The strategic insight behind Arc was perfect – your browser IS the Operating System, and so we should build a browser that can function as that platform. Arc had pretty good market validation with early adopters, they say that growth was flattened out but IMO that's normal for most products, and it's up to the company to find out WHY growth flattened and then solve that problem. Not kill the product and chase some en…

This wasn't a new insight by Arc. ChromeOS exists. Palm's WebOS was a thing. Even Apple pitched rich web apps as the avenue for 3rd party developers to make things for the original iPhone, they were just a bit too early. There is even Electron, for web apps to run as desktop apps on all major operating systems. Most browsers can also turn any website into a self-contained web app that lives along side other local app…

You forgot about Firefox OS, which had a fully web-based UI.
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