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Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by lawlessone »

Balgair wrote: post #89

I did one of these once. Once . I felt so bad afterwards that I swore them off forever. It's not like the 'interview' was terrible or anything. I knew it was AI from the start. It was just that when I got done with it, I realized that I had talked at a computer for ~45 minutes. And, yet again, I was going to be ghosted by the company (I was), and that I was never going to get those 45 minutes back. That was time I co…

it's disrespectful to time make the candidate work for 45 minutes or more while committing nothing themselves.

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Post by dontlikeyoueith »

agent327 wrote: post #457
antonvs wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a pretty weak inductive argument. To substantiate it, you'd need to look at the actual causes of that apparent connection. In doing so, you'd likely find that the connection is nowhere near as directly causal as you seem to be imagining. After all, China has been following a market-based variation on a communist one-party state for quite some time. While it's certainly not the freest country in the world, toda…

The connection is trivial: you are upsetting an existing power system, temporarily removing all checks and balances. The new power system gets established by the aggressors, and they have absolutely no reason to hold back. At that point, human nature will simply take over. My perspective has nothing to do with indoctrination, but is instead born out of historical knowledge. Communism has been tried again, and again,…

> if people like Musk or Bezos suddenly popped out of existence; their lives simply don't impact mine. If anything, their existence serves as an inspiration for others to try for big dreams. Many of those will fail, some will succeed marginally, and a very small number will join the ranks of the ultra-rich - because they managed to provide a service that millions of people were willing to give them money.

Sure, you're not indoctrinated. Keep telling yourself that.

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Post by lucraft »

elAhmo wrote: post #467
akudha wrote: post #422

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd hate being interviewed by a bot. Talking to these stupid automated answering machines is bad enough. That said, the other side of the equation is also bad, for employers. I was asked to conduct some interviews recently. I asked the most basic of questions (like absolutely basic stuff, "what is an interface?" level basic). The number of people who said "I don't know" is far less than the number of people who tried…

Those people should be filtered by CV screening, maybe some sort of email exchange before with a few questions to answer to 'ensure' human wants to invest some time in the interview process, rather than just spray and pray.

To an extent I think would be surprising to anyone who hasn’t done interviews, all developer CVs below about Staff level are the same.

Everyone’s architected a system, handled communication with stakeholders, contributed to technical direction of the team, mentored other developers, etc etc

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Post by gwbas1c »

remram wrote: post #410
joshdavham wrote: post #297

I actually don’t mind the idea of AI conducting short 5-minute candidate screens that respect a candidate’s time, but full-on AI interviews are insulting and disrespectful of a candidate’s time.

Why? They can't read my CV? Send me an email if you need clarifications. Don't waste my time trying to appeal to a bot.

> Still, stretched-thin HR teams say it’s the only way to handle thousands of applicants.

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Post by aflag »

MrBrobot wrote: post #103

> Candidates tell Fortune that AI interviewers make them feel unappreciated to the point where they’d rather skip out on potential job opportunities, reasoning the company’s culture can’t be great if human bosses won’t make the time to interview them. But HR experts argue the opposite; since AI interviewers can help hiring managers save time in first-round calls, the humans have more time to have more meaningful conv…

I don't want more time having meaningful conversations with human bosses. I just want to have a normal interview.

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Post by simmerup »

ryandrake wrote: post #315
brushfoot wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> While some worry AI will dehumanize the hiring process, we believe the opposite. Look at the language Coinbase uses. Only their view is a "belief." The opposing view is a "worry." Others are motivated by fear. Only holy Coinbase is motivated by love! This is, of course, doublethink. We all know that removing humans from the hiring process is, by definition, dehumanizing. Coinbase's article would have been more pala…

Companies shouldn't be making business decisions based on "belief" or "worry." Show the research that demonstrates which one is actually true.

Why would you expect them to show you the research? They have no reason. to do so and probably believe you’ll find it distasteful if they did

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Post by SoftTalker »

MrBrobot wrote: post #385
pjmlp wrote: post #4

It is all almost making richer even more richer, instead of properly hiring people for HR, AI bots. Instead of having more people at the supermarket, have the customers work as if they were employees, the only thing missing is fetching stuff from warehouse when missing on the shelves, but still pay the same or more. Instead of paying to artists, do job ads using generated AI images with code magically showing off mon…

The self-checkout is the one that gets me. I'm paying you money for products, and you both continuously raise prices, and make it less convenient for me to shop there. That is, unless I want to order it for delivery online, and pay an extra fee. Every retailer doesn't need to be Amazon. I don't even want Amazon to be like Amazon anymore. Maybe this is me getting older, or me having worked in technology too long - but…

I like self-checkout on balance. The stores have a lot more self-checkout stations than they had cashiers. Most of the time I'm buying less than a dozen or so items. The work of having to scan and bag them myself is hardly more than taking them out of the cart. It's way faster than waiting in a queue behind someone who's apparently buying groceries for two weeks for a family of 8 and then has several dozen coupons and finally is writing a check. Or waiting behind several such people.

I guess if I were buying two weeks of groceries for a family of 8 I might prefer the cashier to scan them and the bag boy to bag them for me.

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Post by aflag »

ryandrake wrote: post #324
827a wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right; AI interviews select-out candidates who aren't desperate; who tend to be the highest quality candidates. Great job, Braintrust. Some companies genuinely don't care though; they're a meatgrinder that just need to get warm souls into the machine. Ironically: These are the companies that are being eaten alive by AI right now.

Who says companies want the "highest quality candidates?" Some companies would prefer desperate, obedient employees who have no other options and will jump through any hoops they're told to jump through.

Also, most of us are about average.

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Post by franktankbank »

SoftTalker wrote: post #485

> Still, stretched-thin HR teams say it’s the only way to handle thousands of applicants. You're doing it wrong if you're considering "thousands" of applicants. First of all ask your current good employees if they can refer anyone. If you need to go to resumes, sort by qualifications. Screen out obvious robo-applications, you know them when you see them just like you know spam email from the subject line alone. Hint:…

You are giving advice to some of the dumbest people in the country. I'm not saying its bad advice, but these people are universally stupid. I don't know exactly why things ended up this way, but I'd love to hear where this isn't a truth.

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Post by jedimastert »

pluc wrote: post #358
codingdave wrote: post #326

Take this entire paragraph and read carefully, and it explains how to kill this trend: > “The truth is, if you want a job, you’re gonna go through this thing,” Adam Jackson, CEO and founder of Braintrust, a company that distributes AI interviewers, tells Fortune. “If there were a large portion of the job-seeking community that were wholesale rejecting this, our clients wouldn’t find the tool useful… This thing would…

Most job seekers don't have the luxury of choice.

Especially in the current American economy. It's a very intentional power balance
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