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Re: Study mode

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kamranahmedse wrote: post #494
x187463 wrote: post #114

I'm really waiting for somebody to figure out the correct interface for all this. For example, study mode will present you with a wall of text containing information, examples, and questions. There's no great way to associate your answers with specific questions. The chat interface just isn't good for this sort of interaction. ChatGPT really needs to build its own canvas/artifact interface wherein questions/responses…

We are trying to solve this at https://roadmap.sh/ai It's still a work in progress but we are trying to make it better everyday

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Re: Study mode

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Post by unixhero »

jacobedawson wrote: post #379

An underrated quality of LLMs as study partner is that you can ask "stupid" questions without fear of embarrassment. Adding in a mode that doesn't just dump an answer but works to take you through the material step-by-step is magical. A tireless, capable, well-versed assistant on call 24/7 is an autodidact's dream. I'm puzzled (but not surprised) by the standard HN resistance & skepticism. Learning something online 5…

This is a dream I agree. Detractors are always left behind.

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Post by tekno45 »

signatoremo wrote: post #154
tekno45 wrote: post #101

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how are you checking its correctness if you're learning the topic?

The same way you check if you learn in any other ways? Cross referencing, asking online, trying it out, etc.

We're giving this to children who inherently don't have those skills.

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Post by bradleyjg »

jimmaswell wrote: post #491
romaniitedomum wrote: post #412

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> Learning something online 5 years ago often involved trawling incorrect, outdated or hostile content and attempting to piece together mental models without the chance to receive immediate feedback on intuition or ask follow up questions. This is leaps and bounds ahead of that experience. But now, you're wondering if the answer the AI gave you is correct or something it hallucinated. Every time I find myself putting…

> you're wondering if the answer the AI gave you is correct or something it hallucinated Regular research has the same problem finding bad forum posts and other bad sources by people who don't know what they're talking about, albeit usually to a far lesser degree depending on the subject.

The difference is that llms mess with our heuristics. They certainly aren’t infallible but over time we develop a sense for when someone is full of shit. The mix and match nature of llms hides that.

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Post by energy123 »

Aachen wrote: post #328
theodorewiles wrote: post #48

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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-97652-6 This isn't study mode, it's a different AI tutor, but: "The median learning gains for students, relative to the pre-test baseline (M = 2.75, N = 316), in the AI-tutored group were over double those for students in the in-class active learning group."

I wonder how much this was a factor: "The occurrence of inaccurate “hallucinations” by the current [LLMs] poses a significant challenge for their use in education. [...] we enriched our prompts with comprehensive, step-by-step answers, guiding the AI tutor to deliver accurate and high-quality explanations (v) to students. As a result, 83% of students reported that the AI tutor’s explanations were as good as, or bette…

OpenAI should figure out how to onboard teachers. Teacher uploads context for the year, OpenAI distributes a chatbot to the class that's perma fixed into study mode. Basically like GPT store but with an interface and UX tuned for a classroom.

Re: Study mode

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Post by energy123 »

x187463 wrote: post #114

I'm really waiting for somebody to figure out the correct interface for all this. For example, study mode will present you with a wall of text containing information, examples, and questions. There's no great way to associate your answers with specific questions. The chat interface just isn't good for this sort of interaction. ChatGPT really needs to build its own canvas/artifact interface wherein questions/responses…

Yeah. And how to tie in the teacher into all this. Need the teacher to upload the context, like the textbook, so the LLM can refer to tangible class material.

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Post by kuschku »

chrsw wrote: post #471
breve wrote: post #455

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The ability to say "I don't know" is not a high bar. I would say it's a basic requirement of a system that is not magic.

> The ability to say "I don't know" is not a high bar. For you and I, it's not. But for these LLMs, maybe it's not that easy? They get their inputs, crunch their numbers, and come out with a confidence score. If they come up with an answer they're 99% confident in, by some stochastic stumbling through their weights, what are they supposed to do? I agree it's a problem that these systems are more likely to give poor,…

but they're not. Ofyen the confidence value is much lower. I should have an option to see how confident it is. (maybe set the opacity of each token to its confidence?)

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Post by reactordev »

romaniitedomum wrote: post #412
jacobedawson wrote: post #379

An underrated quality of LLMs as study partner is that you can ask "stupid" questions without fear of embarrassment. Adding in a mode that doesn't just dump an answer but works to take you through the material step-by-step is magical. A tireless, capable, well-versed assistant on call 24/7 is an autodidact's dream. I'm puzzled (but not surprised) by the standard HN resistance & skepticism. Learning something online 5…

> Learning something online 5 years ago often involved trawling incorrect, outdated or hostile content and attempting to piece together mental models without the chance to receive immediate feedback on intuition or ask follow up questions. This is leaps and bounds ahead of that experience. But now, you're wondering if the answer the AI gave you is correct or something it hallucinated. Every time I find myself putting…

While true, trial and error is a great learning tool as well. I think in time we’ll get to an LLM model that is definitive in its answer.

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Post by kuschku »

everyone wrote: post #395
jacobedawson wrote: post #379

An underrated quality of LLMs as study partner is that you can ask "stupid" questions without fear of embarrassment. Adding in a mode that doesn't just dump an answer but works to take you through the material step-by-step is magical. A tireless, capable, well-versed assistant on call 24/7 is an autodidact's dream. I'm puzzled (but not surprised) by the standard HN resistance & skepticism. Learning something online 5…

Yeah, I've been a game-dev forever and had never built a web-app in my life (even in college) I recently completed my 1st web-app contract, and gpt was my teacher. I have no problem asking stupid questions, tbh asking stupid questions is a sign of intelligence imo. But where is there to even ask these days? Stack Overflow may as well not exist.

> But where is there to even ask these days?

Stack overflow?

The IRC, Matrix or slack chats for the languages?

Re: Study mode

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Post by riwsky »

breve wrote: post #455
mediaman wrote: post #454

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This is endlessly brought up as if the human operating the tool is an idiot. I agree that if the user is incompetent, cannot learn, and cannot learn to use a tool, then they're going to make a lot of mistakes from using GPTs. Yes, there are limitations to using GPTs. They are pre-trained, so of course they're not going to know about some easter egg in DDG. They are not an oracle. There is indeed skill to using them.…

The ability to say "I don't know" is not a high bar. I would say it's a basic requirement of a system that is not magic.

Perhaps LLMs are magic?
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