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> Encourage Open-Source and Open-Weight AI It's good to see this, especially since they acknowledge that open weights is not equal to open source.

No, it's bad, since we will soon reach a point where AI models are major security risks and we can't get rid of an AI after we open-source it.

"major security risks" as in Terminator style robot overlords, or (to me more likely) they enable people to develop exploits more easily? Anyway I fail to see how it makes much difference if the models are open or closed, since the barrier to entry to creating new models is not that large (as in, any competent large company or nation state can do it easily), and even if they were all closed source, anyone who has the weights can run up as many copies as they want.

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post #449

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Without providing actual support like money , the government saying they encourage open-* AI is no more meaningful than me saying the same thing. In fact, if you open the PDF file and navigate to that section, the content is barely relevant at all.

We're clearly in an era where the US Govt simply doesn't have enough money to throw at everything it wants to encourage, and needs to develop alternate means of incentivizing (or de-disincentivizing) those things. Sensible minimal regulation is one, there may be others. Time to get creative and resourceful.

It’s genuinely bizarre to read a comment like this which seems to imply there is some kind of grand strategy behind this when the reality is and always has been “own the libs”.

They very clearly have no idea what the fuck they are doing they just know what other people say they should do and their toddler reaction is to do the opposite.

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Tidal waves comes from earths rotation, so not fusion nor fission.

what set off the spinning?

Earth's spin comes from the parent molecular cloud which formed the Solar System (including any impacts during the protoplanetary phase.) And that ultimately from density fluctuations after Big Bang, and the way they led to coalescence of galaxies and galaxy clusters.

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How can this work with their main goal of assuring American superiority? If it’s open weights anyone else can use it too.

That's exactly what the goal is: That everyone uses American models over Chinese models that will "promote democratic values".

From a government that has made it extremely fucking clear that they aren’t ACTUALLY interested in the concept of democracy even in the most basic sense.

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post #46

In the energy section, they talk about using nuclear fusion to power AI... but not solar. What a joke.

Nothing stops the AI companies from using only energy from renewable sources, right?

Demand is too high, same goes for nuclear which takes too long to build.

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I, for one, dont't agree with the idea that Europe is too regulatory and bureaucratic. I welcome my rights as a consumer and human being being safeguarded at the cost of a small amount of profit.

Registering a company in Germany: you must visit a notary in person with your incorporation documents, and sit there while the notary reads aloud your incorporation to you. This is to "ensure that you fully understand the contract" even as a foreigner who doesn't speak corporate-legalese-German. Minimum capital deposit of €25,000. Registering a company in US (Delaware) can be achieved in as little as 1 hour. Getting…

> It's also a form of light racism that targets foreigners/migrants by imposing more difficult bureaucratic requirements and costs on them compared to by birth citizens.

How is having a different process for foreigners racist? Criticize it if you will, but calling it racist is crazy. Even "light racist" - whatever that means. Bureaucracy in Germany is notoriously slow for all people. Foreigners going through a different process makes it worse. I understand that. Nevertheless racism is a problem that exist and is prevalent (Germany is far from an exception here) and IMO you make it more difficult to improve in the right direction by (seemingly) calling every problem of foreigners racist.

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No, it's bad, since we will soon reach a point where AI models are major security risks and we can't get rid of an AI after we open-source it.

"major security risks" as in Terminator style robot overlords, or (to me more likely) they enable people to develop exploits more easily? Anyway I fail to see how it makes much difference if the models are open or closed, since the barrier to entry to creating new models is not that large (as in, any competent large company or nation state can do it easily), and even if they were all closed source, anyone who has the…

The risk of AI is that they are used for industrial scale misinformation

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Technically most sources of available energy on or near the planet are the output of fusion in some way, so this tracks.

Everything except geothermal and fission. Unless you count where the fissionable elements came from, in which case you're only left with the portion of geothermal that's from gravity (residual heat from the earth compacting itself into a planet).

To be nitpicky, our uranium and thorium were made via r-process (rapid neutron capture), which is not the kind of fusion occurring in the Sun at present.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-process

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> Any ideology that accepts taxation - practically all of them - believes [the idea that certain people is just above others and they deserve more for free]. Only if you anchor the baseline of "deserve" to private property rights and open markets. It's a fine foundation for civilization, but it's still "just like your opinion man". You could have different viewpoints of deserving, such as strongest-wins: "If I can st…

>> Any ideology that accepts taxation - practically all of them - believes [the idea that certain people is just above others and they deserve more for free]. > Only if you anchor the baseline of "deserve" to private property rights and open markets. Say someone has an ideology where they believe 70 year olds shouldn't have to work and need to be provided for by the community. What aspect of that would be anchored to…

Right, of course. But there's a difference in moral code on: who is the rightful owner of the surplus generated, and how should it be redistributed.

a) private ownership, even charity is directly immoral (Ayn Rand)

b) private ownership, no state redistribution but charity is morally compelled (religious conservatism)

c) private ownership, reluctantly accept state redistribution to prevent social- or system tragedy. (US republicans and democratic establishment)

Note that all of the above are what I'd call property rights fundamentalists. Then you have:

d) mixed ownership: surplus morally belongs both to you, and the system that allowed you to do business in the first place (US progressive liberals + most of the world's centrists)

Here's where the rest of the world generally reside. There's endless diversity and constant debate about the how, the who and the how much.

The problem with the US "left" is that it's split: the liberal progressives are in (d) but the establishment remain in (c): they're subconsciously conceding to property rights fundamentalism while advocating for redistribution, which puts them in a constant uphill battle to "immorally" extract value from the rightful deserving class of billionaires and business owners. That's also why democrats are considered right-wing by policy compared to the majority of the Western world.

Personally, I think this is why Bernie, Mamdani, AOC etc gets subject to such disproportionate attacks. Fiscal policy-wise they're pretty meh (just go back a few decades in the US and you'll find the same), plus their real-politik influence is also pretty mid. BUT, the real issue is they're shifting the moral baseline from (c) to (d), which is an extremely dangerous perspective shift for established interests. Rhetoric like "pay your fair share" is unacceptable to the hegemony.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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post #511

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"major security risks" as in Terminator style robot overlords, or (to me more likely) they enable people to develop exploits more easily? Anyway I fail to see how it makes much difference if the models are open or closed, since the barrier to entry to creating new models is not that large (as in, any competent large company or nation state can do it easily), and even if they were all closed source, anyone who has the…

The risk of AI is that they are used for industrial scale misinformation

Definitely a risk, and already happening, but I presume mostly closed source AIs are used for this? Like, people using the ChatGPT APIs to generate spam; or Grok just doing its normal thing. Don't see how the open vs closed debate has much to do with it.
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