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Re: Xfinity using WiFi signals in your house to detect motion

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Are you sure? That's new to me. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPrivacy_Directive says > The Directive provision applicable to cookies is Article 5(3). Recital 25 of the Preamble recognises the importance and usefulness of cookies for the functioning of modern Internet and directly relates Article 5(3) to them but Recital 24 also warns of the danger that such instruments may present to privacy. The change in the law…

Read: https://gdpr.eu/cookies/ …after you dismiss the cookie banner, of course. I add this not only as a quip but to highlight that even a gdpr explainer website which you’d expect isn’t doing the evil thing of tracking users, has interpreted the relevant laws such that it finds it necessary to promt the user in order to simply explain the gdpr and epd/epr…

> This is not an official EU Commission or Government resource. [...] Nothing found in this portal constitutes legal advice.

It's easier and safer to just claim that you must prompt for everything, and it serves the goal of obfuscating bad behaviour.

Cookies that are functionally necessary to do what the user is there for, not to track them, are OK, that's the spirit and intent of the law. Even if you think the wording means that, realistically, the EU isn't coming after anyone for a legitimate good-faith use of language cookies without a banner, and they'd clarify if that was how they intended to enforce it.

Re: Xfinity using WiFi signals in your house to detect motion

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> Subject to applicable law, Comcast may disclose information generated by your WiFi Motion to third parties without further notice to you in connection with any law enforcement investigation or proceeding, any dispute to which Comcast is a party, or pursuant to a court order or subpoena. Sounds like, at least in some limited circumstances (using the provided WiFi AP, having this feature turned on, etc), ISPs are goi…

It’s tricky when privacy gets tangled with law enforcement requests. If you want better control over your data, tools like HiFiveStar can help you monitor what’s being shared. It made me feel a bit more on top of my online footprint.

Re: Xfinity using WiFi signals in your house to detect motion

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> Bezos' civic engagement weighs more than my civic engagement Again, I worked on these issues. Bezos and friends never showed up. Nobody showed up. This wasn’t a battle between David and Goliath, it was an empty field to which some generals showed up, looked around and then left. > money is a superpower so the more one has, the more one can take To a limit. The last few years have been a barn full of monied candidat…

> Again, I worked on these issues. Working on something means you put in effort, not that it's focused properly or that you even understand the real issues. At best you'll solve your problems without caring or understanding if it solves anyone else's. > Bezos and friends never showed up. Case in point. Bezos and friends don't need to "show up" anywhere you'd know. Their interests are implicitly considered and they're…

> Working on something means you put in effort, not that it's focused properly or that you even understand the real issues

They definitely understand them far more than you, who has zero experience with them and regularly makes fallacious arguments and outright incorrect claims about them.

> Their interests are implicitly considered and they're transmitted on channels you and I don't have access to.

Where, exactly?

> You are conflating winning a popular election with leading for the people.

No, you failed to actually read their comment correctly. Their comment was a refutation of your claim that "money is a superpower so the more one has, the more one can take". They were not claiming that winning an election meant leading for the people, only pointing out the evidence against your claim.

> Because if you aren't saying this, you aren't saying anything.

What does this even mean?

> you'll keep blaming "the lazy" that things don't change

Fact: active participation from voters is a necessary precondition for a democracy to survive.

> showing up to fight for digital privacy, or almost anything that's not life and death, is the least of their concerns

Yes, that's correct, but those same people don't participate on politics at all, with any of the time that they have. The middle class doesn't participate. I've literally never heard a friend or acquaintance of mine say that they've ever contacted a representative (in federal or state government) about a political issue. This factually is an issue of people being lazy and disengaged, because of the fact that people with lots of disposable time and income don't put in the effort.

> You decided to label them "lazy". Ever wondered if your work "on these issues" is tainted by this opinion

No, it's a trivial implication of the nature of democracies. If you don't get that active participation is necessary for democracies to survive, you fundamentally don't understand how democracies work.

This is also an extremely lazy cop-out (which is thematically consistent) where you're dismissing someone's opinion because they have more experience than you in that field...which is insane.

> that's why ultimately all you can achieve is only for the people who can afford it

And, again, this is factually incorrect as to the root of the problem, because the people who can afford to participate in politics (which at the very least includes the middle-class) do not.

> No wealth means no power, not even personal agency, let alone in national policy.

This is also factually incorrect. The eligibility to vote has zero requirements as to income or wealth. Bezos gets the exact same number of votes as I do, despite having orders of magnitude more wealth. And guess how our representatives get elected?

You should really consider listening to someone who has actual experience in the relevant field rather than spewing fallacies and factual inaccuracies.

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> the rich and powerful minority is more organized They show up. I've worked on privacy legislation at the state and local level. Barely anybody calls or writes in support. That means barely anybody would turn up to a contested primary election over it, or donate to a challenger, or organise the foregoing en masse . Contrast that with bread-and-butter or activist issues, where it's immediately clear there is politica…

> They show up. I've worked on privacy legislation at the state and local level. Barely anybody calls or writes in support. This is by design. A lot of people talk about RTO in regards to business real estate but there's also the aspect of keeping people so busy and exhausted that they don't show up when it matters.

This is a wild claim. Do you have any evidence at all for this?

Re: Xfinity using WiFi signals in your house to detect motion

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Yeah, disable that wifi on an device not controlled by you

If they make the firmware there's no guarantee they aren't still doing it just without a broadcast SSID going along with it.

I guess technically they don't need to use wifi, could just have a hidden microwave chip in it and use a non-wifi detection sysatem.

Great. Now super paranoid lol.

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